[VoiceOps] Conferencing NPAs

Paul Timmins paul at timmins.net
Tue Dec 8 12:00:52 EST 2009


Parts of India have stronger and more robust infrastructure than many 
rural areas, as far as interconnection and cost per customer are 
concerned. The higher per minute rate reflects the costs of providing 
the customer's service, in some form.

While it may seem outrageous, it's very, very expensive to provide 
service to 100 customers spread over a 10 mile radius, and that's what 
those costs are designed to reflect.

I actually think it's funny that the rural ILECs are taking advantage of 
these rates and putting conference bridges here, even though it costs us 
money when our customers use them.

Realize many CLECs also have intercarrier compensation rates of over a 
cent per minute too.

But acting as if this was some sort of abuse of the system that deserves 
collateral damage to the legitimate customers who are also on the rural 
ILEC, I don't know about that.

-Paul

Colin wrote:
> Can't really blame them too much since they offer free US calls, no 
> GOOD reason why calls to those npa-nxx's cost 6-12x more then a call 
> to India.
>
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> On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Sorensen, Marty wrote:
>
>> Google Voice will not complete calls at all to those exchanges and 
>> would up in front of the FCC for their trouble.
>>
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>> [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] *On Behalf Of *David Hiers
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:37 AM
>> *To:* Ujjval Karihaloo
>> *Cc:* voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [VoiceOps] Conferencing NPAs
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>> Some providers are pretty shady; they're simply limiting the number 
>> of calls to the troublesome NPAs instead of trying to charge their 
>> customers for the calls.
>>
>> Interestingly enough, of all the carrier rate sheets I've seen, I 
>> can't recall one of them that had pricing that reflected the 
>> arbitrage NPAs.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Ujjval Karihaloo 
>> <ujjval at simplesignal.com <mailto:ujjval at simplesignal.com>> wrote:
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>> Guys:
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>>  I know few months back there was a buzz about the Gotomeeting and 
>> other free conferencing numbers being dinged-up for very high per min 
>> rates. Has anyone had issues with Providers like Level3 charging high 
>> rates for these conferencing numbers?
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>> Ujjval Karihaloo
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