[VoiceOps] Unportable Numbers

[Paul Timmins]

LNP applies to all LECs no matter what. UNE does not apply to RLECs.

RLECs must allow LNP and resale upon request, but they are not obligated 
to provide an avoided cost discount on resale (ie: they can make you pay 
the retail rate for resold products).

Even CLECs have resale obligations, but since we're not obligated to 
provide avoided cost discounts there's typically no reason to do that. 
Especially since there's typically more favorable resale or wholesale 
conditions under private contracts anyway.

-Paul

On 10/20/2011 03:20 AM, Peter Rad. wrote:
> LNP does not apply to all ILEC's.
> Just as the TA96 mainly applied to RBOC's.
> The RLEC's are a special case and don't have to sign ICA or LNP 
> agreements.
>
>
> On 10/19/2011 5:35 PM, Scott Berkman wrote:
>>
>> There is at least one rural iLEC in NE Georgia that is a PITA to work 
>> with.  If nothing else, I've seen them require direct tandem trunking 
>> (to their tandem) or else they will not deliver calls to ported out 
>> TNs across the regular iLEC (ATT) tandem.
>>
>> I've always been interested in the legality of this since my 
>> understanding of the FCC order is that it requires all LECs to allow 
>> for porting without any loss of functionality to the end user.
>>
>> One option is of course to file a complaint with the FCC per the 
>> following link:
>>
>> http://www.fcc.gov/complaints
>>
>>                 -Scott
>>
>> *From:*voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org 
>> [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] *On Behalf Of *Rob Hutton
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:51 PM
>> *To:* VoiceOps at voiceops.org
>> *Subject:* [VoiceOps] Unportable Numbers
>>
>> We have a customer in Northeast Georgia that currently has their 
>> phone service through an ILEC who I have been told will not sign the 
>> sharing agreements with the underlying VOIP networks, and therefore 
>> no one that I can find has any rate centers in that area. Also, the 
>> VOIP carriers have not been willing to do a off network port request, 
>> which when refused would allow me to continue forward on a complaint 
>> with the regulatory bodies.
>>
>> The underlying VOIP network companies have told me that they have 
>> Local Number Portability departments to work through this stuff, and 
>> I need to work with my higher level carriers to get a case opened 
>> with their LNP departments before they will talk to me. The higer 
>> level carriers are telling me they don't know what to do because they 
>> have never run into this before.
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience working through this mess?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
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