[VoiceOps] Cell Phone to SIP provider

[Carlos Alvarez]

Allow SIP to the handset?  Or something else?

I've had this conversation with them.  They would allow SIP to the handset,
but would not let us do phones with data only and no voice at all.  Even if
we paid full retail for the phones.  Also they will not prioritize SIP, so
it will always be of marginal quality.  I've been experimenting with SIP
over the Sprint 3G network and it's not great.  The LTE network may or may
not be better.  We've had fairly good success with small offices running
over their WiMAX service, which is still a mobile class service even though
it doesn't get moved.  And we have 100% success with a local fixed point to
point WiMAX carrier (our first choice for all connectivity).

They will interconnect with us over PRI or SIP with a minimum of 100 phones.
 The interconnect ties the voice mail for cell and landline together, gives
concurrent ringing, and outbound cell calls show the landline CID.

The best thing for the consumer would be dumb pipes over wireless with SIP
QoS.  That would also be the worst thing for the carriers, so it won't
happen.  Or not until/if Lightsquared or some WiMAX carrier gets rolling.


On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Oren Yehezkely <orenyny at gmail.com> wrote:

> Carlos,
>
> I think you are correct. But Sprint is the closest provider (so far) I
> found to do what I am looking for.
>
> However I was not able to get any answer if they will allow that or not.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Oren
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Carlos Alvarez <carlos at televolve.com>wrote:
>
>> It is my understanding that:
>>
>> a.  The original post asked about sending the calls to the end point (cell
>> phone) as SIP, not cellular voice.
>>
>> b.  Sprint's MIS (Mobile Integration Service) merely allows a company or
>> service provider to connect to them directly over TDM or SIP and do seamless
>> integration of the cell and other phones, but the call is still cellular
>> voice to the handset.
>>
>> I am facing a competitive sale right now to a municipality where there is
>> only one other carrier who can compete with us, and only on that one
>> feature.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Matthew S. Crocker <
>> matthew at corp.crocker.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sprint does this.   The cell phones register to the cell tower as cell
>>> phones.  The cell tower converts to SIP and registers with the call agent.
>>> Broadsoft mentioned something about this at the last connections
>>> conference.  You would get a private IP connection into Sprint to carry the
>>> voice traffic.    This would be perfect for me if Sprint had a decent cell
>>> network in my area.   Does anyone know if AT&T or Verizon (LTE) do it as
>>> well?
>>>
>>> http://newsroom.sprint.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=1628
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Oren Yehezkely" <orenyny at gmail.com>
>>> *To: *"VoiceOps at voiceops.org" <voiceops at voiceops.org>
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:00:02 PM
>>> *Subject: *[VoiceOps] Cell Phone to SIP provider
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am looking for a cell phone company that is capable of providing SIP
>>> service instead of sending the calls over the cellular network.
>>>
>>> If anybody here is capable of providing such a service or can recommend a
>>> vendor that can do that, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Oren
>>>
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Carlos Alvarez
TelEvolve
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