[VoiceOps] CLI sim testing

[Colin Brown]

David, I've seen a bunch of the services offering the sim gateway detection usage as well but I don't know any of the companies personally. I was hoping someone here maybe had some experience with them.   




On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:36 AM, David Knell wrote:

> A bit of thread drift here, but there's a whole industry doing just this
> (albeit not ITSPs) for fraud (or toll bypass) detection.  Suppose an MNO
> wants to detect SIM gateway usage on its network.  They'll have a bunch of
> boxes just like those which Colin's after scattered around their network,
> then the testing organisation goes and buys as many routes to that MNO as it
> can.  They'll then make test calls down the various routes and see what CLIs
> are presented at the terminating boxes.  If it's not the expected CLI, then
> it's (probably) the CLI of a SIM being used in a gateway or that of a leaky
> PABX.  Work backwards to the owner, bust them, rinse and repeat.  Given that
> there is serious money at stake (MTN Ghana recently reported estimated
> losses to SIM gateways of $9M in a 6 month period - that's about
> $1/subscriber) this is well worth doing.
> 
> --Dave
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org]
> On Behalf Of Alex Balashov
> Sent: 04 April 2012 03:23
> To: Colin Brown
> Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] CLI sim testing
> 
> I don't know how big your operation is, but I have difficulty visualising an
> ITSP whose revenue genuinely supports such an expensive venture for the
> narrow purpose of catching merely one kind of marginal problem, where the
> marginal utility of doing so would truly exceed the marginal cost.  Perhaps
> you are the exception.
> 
> --
> Alex Balashov - Principal 
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> 
> Colin Brown <zavoid at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Because "should" and "is" are two different things.  I've been burned too
> many times by "should" differing from what "actually is" so I'm looking to
> get the actual data delivered locally sent to
>> My NOC in near real time. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:16 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Is that really worth it?  Why not just order a bunch of call forwarding
> products and/or forwarded DIDs around the world, and forward them back to an
> incoming number on your side?  Route it to some clever program.  The caller
> ID should be passed through end-to-end.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Alex Balashov - Principal 
>>> Evariste Systems LLC 
>>> 235 E Ponce de Leon Ave 
>>> Suite 106
>>> Decatur, GA 30030 
>>> Tel: +1-678-954-0670 
>>> Fax: +1-404-961-1892 
>>> Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com
>>> 
>>> Colin Brown <zavoid at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have any experience or products you use that you like for
> remote international CLI testing?
>>>> 
>>>> basically I'm looking for a bunch of boxes I can put SIM cards into in
> various countries around the world that I can route my calls to and verify
> the CLI being set is being delivered correctly(and get that information back
> to my severs for reporting)
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Colin
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