[VoiceOps] Local calling areas & 7-digit dialing (NANP)

PE peeip989 at gmail.com
Thu Jan 12 17:22:42 EST 2012


The NANP link that Paul posted is a good start because it at least tells
you where 7-digit is allowed, etc. Not sure if the local calling data that
you can get from CCMI (et al) gives you this info. You'd think, although my
experience with any of those is that they are fraught with errors.

The proper thing (IMO) is that everywhere go 10 digits. It's only 3 more
digits, people!




On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Paul Timmins <paul at timmins.net> wrote:

> http://www.nanpa.com/nas/**public/npa_query_step1.do?**
> method=resetNpaReportModel<http://www.nanpa.com/nas/public/npa_query_step1.do?method=resetNpaReportModel>
>
> Plus the ilec tariffs may tell you most of it.
>
> Often the state PUC will know these strange little quirks, or can tell you
> where they exist. I don't think they're catalogued in any one place.
> -Paul
>
>
> On 01/12/2012 04:35 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote:
>
>> So we have 7-digit dialing in place for NANP destinations.  The
>> implementation is really stupid-simple: if 7 digits are dialed, take the
>> originating number's area code and tack it on to the front of the dialed
>> number.  I am pretty sure this is how most commercial ITSPs do it (as
>> tested also on Vonage and Packet8).
>>
>> But for certain areas, this doesn't properly mimic the 7-digit dialing
>> that people who still have a POTS circuit from their LEC are used to.  Take
>> ours for example: I'm in Moscow, ID (NPA 208).  We sit smack-dab on the
>> WA/ID state border.  8 miles to the west of us is Pullman, WA (NPA 509).
>>  Both cities have the same ILEC: Frontier (f/k/a Verizon f/k/a GTE).  There
>> has been an understanding here since (I think) the mid-80s that calls
>> between Moscow and Pullman are and will remain local.  But on top of that,
>> if you dial a Pullman NXX from Moscow or a Moscow NXX from Pullman as
>> 7-digits, the call is patched through even though the NPA is different and
>> even though (in some cases) both NPAs have NXXes that overlap with each
>> other (although the corresponding NXX in the same NPA as the caller would
>> be considered a long-distance call in all cases I can think of).  The ILEC
>> phone switch still does the "right" thing.  It's been this way for YEARS,
>> and people here are used to it.
>>
>> Now say I wanted to implement something like that for our customers.  I
>> know what the special exceptions are for this local market, and could
>> probably make it work on our switch.  But I only know about them because
>> I've lived here and know the drill as a result.  And I don't know how
>> common or not this kind of thing is in other areas where you might be on
>> the geographical edge of one's NPA(s).
>>
>> So the question I have is, is there some kind of central
>> resource/authority that I can go to in order to find out what the dialing
>> rules are for a given rate center (mandatory 10-digits/7-digits only within
>> your own NPA/7-digits for certain local NPA-NXX outside your own NPA)?
>>  ...or is the only way to know for sure to find out from the locals?
>>
>> -- Nathan
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