[VoiceOps] CALEA for the small fry operator
Ryan Delgrosso
ryandelgrosso at gmail.com
Fri Jan 18 18:44:21 EST 2013
I would respectfully disagree. We are most certainly not a CLEC, but we
have received warrants for wire taps, and have complied. Fortunately we
do use a commercial softswitch that can provide this.
Its a dangerous game, of not if but when they will come asking, and if
you have a solution in place before that time comes, since the fines for
non-compliance are extreme.
Additionally, what you may do if you are using a reputable DID provider
who is a CLEC (not a reseller) is inquire with them about them
supporting CALEA, and see if they can fill this gap for you. I know in
the past when speaking with certain large national providers on this
topic (much may have changed since then) if they owned the DID AND I
Could route all outbound calls for the subscriber with the warrant back
to them, since they were the CLEC that the number was actually owned by,
I could deflect the warrants to them. Might be worth looking into.
On 01/18/2013 02:30 PM, Joshua Goldbard wrote:
> From: http://transition.fcc.gov/pshs/services/calea/
>
>
> CALEA Compliance for Packet Equipment, And Equipment for
> Facilities-Based Broadband Internet Access Providers and Providers
> of Interconnected VoIP
>
> All facilities-based broadband Internet access providers and providers
> of interconnected VoIP service must ensure that their services comply
> with CALEA upon launch. In the May 12, 2006 Commission order, the
> Commission found that section 107(c)(1) may not be used by entities
> seeking extensions for equipment, facilities, and services deployed on
> or after October 25, 1998 (the effective date of the CALEA section 103
> and 105 requirements).
> I believe you aren't subject to CALEA unless you're a facilities-based
> CLEC/ILEC. I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, but I don't
> think this applies to you. (Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken).
>
> Joshua Goldbard
> VP of Marketing, 2600hz
>
> 116 Natoma Street, Floor 2
> San Francisco, CA, 94104
> 415.886.7923 | j at 2600hz.com <mailto:j at 2600hz.com>
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Nathan Anderson <nathana at fsr.com
> <mailto:nathana at fsr.com>>
> wrote:
>
>> Nope.
>>
>> -- Nathan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua Goldbard [mailto:j at 2600hz.com <http://2600hz.com>]
>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 2:03 PM
>> To: Nathan Anderson
>> Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] CALEA for the small fry operator
>>
>> Are you a CLEC?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Joshua
>>
>> Joshua Goldbard
>> VP of Marketing, 2600hz
>>
>> 116 Natoma Street, Floor 2
>> San Francisco, CA, 94104
>> 415.886.7923 | j at 2600hz.com <mailto:j at 2600hz.com>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Nathan Anderson <nathana at fsr.com
>> <mailto:nathana at fsr.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> We are a small-ish, regional broadband ISP in the U.S. (inland
>> Washington and Idaho) that has also rolled out an interconnected VoIP
>> product over the past year. I'm trying to wrestle through and
>> understand what our responsibilities and obligations are with regards
>> to CALEA compliance at both the legal and technical levels.
>>
>> Confession time: we did not purchase a commercial softswitch product.
>> We built our own solution on top of Asterisk. (I can already hear
>> the groans and feel the tangible disapproval.) We went this route
>> for cost reasons, yes, but more importantly we did it because with a
>> custom-engineered solution, we were able to seamlessly integrate our
>> new voice offering with our other existing products when it comes to
>> both provisioning and billing, and this (I believe) leads to a better
>> and more uniform experience for our customers. For better or worse,
>> we are an ISP first and foremost, and an ITSP second, and
>> provisioning for the new product needed to conform to existing
>> practices rather than be an island unto itself, as so many "turn-key"
>> offerings are.
>>
>> But I recognize that going down this path has brought with it a
>> distinct disadvantage when it comes to solving the CALEA complaince
>> problem. Notably, there are no known CALEA solutions for Asterisk of
>> any stripe that I have been able to find, and any discussion about
>> Asterisk and CALEA seems to have peaked around the time (2006-2007)
>> that the feds announced VoIP providers were going to have to bring
>> themselves into compliance, and then quickly faded after that.
>>
>> Sure, I could easily come up with something that would allow for live
>> or recorded call interception and/or delivery of CDR/CPNI to law
>> enforcement using existing tools already available to me. What is
>> unclear to me, though, is whether there is any particular format or
>> delivery mechanism for this data that the law stipulates we follow.
>> I know that there is an ANSI standard, T1.678v2 (and the subsequent
>> supplements), but of course I have no access to that (200+ page)
>> document without paying the publisher hundreds of dollars for a copy.
>> And even if we got our hands on a copy, it sounds like it would be
>> prohibitively difficult to implement by ourselves.
>>
>> Does the law actually stipulate that T1.678 be followed, and are you
>> not in compliance with CALEA regulations unless you specifically use
>> a solution that is T1.678-compatible? Or is the T1.678 standard
>> simply recommended and preferred by LEAs? I have seen discussion
>> threads where other people have talked about their "creative"
>> solutions to CALEA compliance, which include things such as proxying
>> the RTP stream and having a bank of E&M channels at the ready to
>> mirror the audio to
>> (http://fonality.com/trixbox/forums/trixbox-forums/open-discussion/what-i-need-start-ip-phone-service-provider-business).
>> Do these people actually know if their solution gets a passing
>> grade, or are they taking a gamble?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Nathan Anderson
>> First Step Internet, LLC
>> nathana at fsr.com <mailto:nathana at fsr.com>
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