[VoiceOps] [VOIPSEC] Tackling VoIP fraud, new idea

Peter Beckman beckman at angryox.com
Fri Feb 21 12:51:53 EST 2014

Email sucks for this. I don't want to read an email about something hours
or days after the issue is happening and have to do something manually to
protect my infrastructure.

This seems like something that should be an API in which trusted people can

But then you have concerns about trust of the data. Do I trust your
reasoning for an IP block? Do I even get to see your evidence?

Honestly I don't need a list or an API to block stuff.

HOWEVER, if this can become a private discussion list to talk about
methods, techniques and tactics that we can all implement in order to
prevent telecom/SIP/VoIP fraud on our own, THAT I'd be interested in.


On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, J. Oquendo wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Sergey Kolesnichenko wrote:
>> One more mailing list? :-) I'm sure it is a bad idea. I'm working for a
>> company to protect it from VoIP related attacks, but you will never have
>> gurantess that I will not be using the data in a private list to attack
>> someone as a private individual :-) it is a security hole in a private list
>> about VoIP security...
> I disagree with it being a bad idea. There is never any
> guarantees in life. The purpose for a private list, is it
> protects COMPANIES data. There is a trust mechanism in the
> sense that should/if/when someone wants to contest data,
> I can go back based on checksum to determine WHO submitted
> what. I HIGHLY doubt, someone would throw away their
> reputation, and or damage company reputation by submitting
> falsified data.
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Peter Beckman                                                  Internet Guy
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