[VoiceOps] Easy ways to measure PDD

Ivan Kovacevic ivan.kovacevic at startelecom.ca
Tue Apr 21 11:21:52 EDT 2015


We have recently started measuring it (using FreeSwitch). It is the time
from the initial INVITE to the first provisional response (e.g. 180/183).

Best Regards,

Ivan Kovacevic
Vice President, Client Services
Star Telecom | www.startelecom.ca | SIP Based Services for Contact Centers


-----Original Message-----
From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Eric
Wieling
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 11:15 AM
To: Jesse Howard; Richard Jobson; Peter Beckman
Cc: VoiceOps
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Easy ways to measure PDD

I thought PDD / Post Dial Delay was the time between the caller dialing
and the caller hearing ringback.  If that is correct you will *never* get
PDD info out of Asterisk.   Asterisk only tracks the time between dialing
and answer.


-----Original Message-----
From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Jesse
Howard
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 11:10 AM
To: Richard Jobson; Peter Beckman
Cc: VoiceOps
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Easy ways to measure PDD

Isn't this exactly what the timeout option in the dial command is for on
Asterisk?

You can both limit the maximum PDD and route advance/alert directly from
your dialplan.

To be honest, ASR and ACD have always been more telling from trending
perspectives than PDD where I only care about PDD when it is overly long.
What it was before the current delay is usually irrelevant for the most
part especially since PDD tends to manifest for specific routes vs. the
carrier in general.

Jesse
________________________________________
From: Richard Jobson [richard at teraquant.com]
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 11:16 PM
To: Peter Beckman
Cc: Calvin E.; VoiceOps
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Easy ways to measure PDD

Well if it needs to be real-time,  it is not really a CDR function.
Oracles Palladion/COM  can do it out of the box. But there again you need
to install a box. You can install it on VME.
It will send you an SNMP trap or email in real-time as soon as the  minute
average KPI (e.g. PDD) is exceeded per trunk. And Oracle has a reseller
who can make Palladion sing for its supper :)


On 4/20/15, 5:02 PM, "Peter Beckman" <beckman at angryox.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Apr 2015, Richard Jobson wrote:
>
>> Do you have an SBC or switch that already measures this and outputs
>>it with  the CDR?
>
>  Nope.
>
>> Do you want to report on all PDD long-term?  Or just one or two
>> specific calls?
>
>  Long term. A handful of Asterisk servers. Looking for what Calvin E.
>  suggested, except a tool that someone has already written. I can do
> what  Calvin suggests, but interpreted scripts are no match for C
> compiled  packet matching.
>
>  What Calvin suggests is something that would work for a PCAP file
>  processed after the fact. I'm looking for something that would be
>able to
>  catch the non-100 response for each INVITE and log it to a file or
>send a
>  metric. Even if it has to wake up and parse a 80MB+ pcap file each
>run to
>  find the PDD per Call-ID, then determine if that Call-ID has been
>  reported. Lots of caching of data... it can be done, but speed is
>  important and a scripting language is quick and dirty but unlikely to
>be
>  fast and reliable.
>
>  Does Asterisk support logging or emitting metrics like PDD?
>
>  When a carrier jumps from <1 second Post Dial Delay to 20+ seconds
>Post
>  Dial Delay I need (a) to know about it and (b) be able to demote them
>in
>  my LCR in an automated fashion temporarily so I don't need to wake up
>and
>  take care of my customers.
>
>Beckman
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