[VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

[Erik Flournoy]

Derek,

Is actually right. Legislation that blocks a company from auto dialing a
number based on it being a cell phone or landline is extremely difficult to
prosecute. Straight talk has a home service that essentially uses a
wireless carrier backbone. I can pickup the base plug it in at my neighbors
house or better yet put it in my car on a power inverter and wah lah my
home phone is what it truly is a cell phone with a 110-220v power supply.
Number Portability would make wireline and wireless number location nearly
impossible. Manual dialing would be the only way to prevent an auto dialer
issue.

Erik Flournoy
808-426-4527
301-218-7325

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On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Derek Andrew <Derek.Andrew at usask.ca>
wrote:

> Isn't it impossible to decide if a number is a cell phone or a land line
> because of local number portability?
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Matthew Crocker <matthew at corp.crocker.com
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Depending on your switch you should be able to build a profile for the
>> customer and reject calls going to cell phone LRN providers.
>>
>> Personally, I wouldn’t take on the liability of guaranteeing their
>> auto-dialer only calls landlines.   You would end up being sued if you make
>> a mistake.  IMHO, let them manually dial or find a list scrubbing company
>> that actually works.
>>
>> —
>>
>> Matthew Crocker
>> President - Crocker Communications, Inc.
>> Managing Partner - Crocker Telecommunications, LLC
>> E: matthew at corp.crocker.com
>> E: matthew at crocker.com
>>
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have a customer in market research who is legally required to manually
>> dial calls to cell phones.  Right now they are considering abandoning all
>> of their auto/predictive dialer software and going to manual dial for
>> everything, because the list-scrubbing services have been shown to be
>> inaccurate.  There are extreme penalties for auto-dialing a cell phone, and
>> "best effort" is NOT a defense to this, at all.  For example, Gallup just
>> settle a claim for $12M.
>>
>> So they need a totally accurate way to prevent a cell phone call from
>> originating from their dialer.  The only thing I can think of is some sort
>> of LRN dip + LRN-to-carrier-type response.  One of their people talked to
>> Neustar, but didn't get great answers because he doesn't really understand
>> telephony.  Before I get in touch with Neustar, I thought I'd see if people
>> here have some ideas.
>>
>> If you provide a commercial product for this, please feel free to tell me
>> so on or off list, the customer is willing to pay for the service and we're
>> open to all options.  I don't have a budget number yet but manual dialing
>> is going to cost them quite a bit for some types of studies.
>>
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