[VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

Mary Lou Carey marylou at backuptelecom.com
Wed Aug 19 13:59:10 EDT 2015


I am an AOCN and yes the LERG has fields that differentiates between wireline
and wireless. There are actually three fields that you could filter by:
 
COCTYPE: Identifies the type of code
SSC: Identifies the type of service
COTYPE: Identifies the type of carrier
 
Mary Lou Carey
BackUP Telecom Consulting
615-791-9969
 

> On August 19, 2015 at 12:32 PM James Milko <jmilko at bandwidth.com> wrote:
> 
>  NPAC has a service type field that indicates wireless/wireline.  That doesn't
> solve for native numbers though since they won't have LRN data since they
> don't have LRNs.  I don't remember offhand if LERG has a wireless/wireline
> indication for a given [A]OCN or block.
> 
>  James Milko
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>  On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com
> <mailto:abalashov at evaristesys.com> > wrote:
>    > > ‎Indeed, you'd start from the NPAC, which would get you, for a given
>    > > TN, an LRN. Then what?
> >    ‎
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> >    Sent from my BlackBerry.
> >      Original Message  
> >    From: Kidd Filby
> >    Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:52
> >    To: Carlos Alvarez
> >    Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
> >    Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed
> > accuracy
> > 
> >    If I were to offer this service or database access, I would start with my
> > own local copy of NPAC that I'd update every X-minutes a day.  This product
> > is available now and has been for a while.  This is the only sure-way, I
> > know of, to have the most accurate data to work from.
> > 
> >    Kidd
> > 
> >    On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com
> > <mailto:caalvarez at gmail.com> > wrote:
> >    I have a customer in market research who is legally required to manually
> > dial calls to cell phones.  Right now they are considering abandoning all of
> > their auto/predictive dialer software and going to manual dial for
> > everything, because the list-scrubbing services have been shown to be
> > inaccurate.  There are extreme penalties for auto-dialing a cell phone, and
> > "best effort" is NOT a defense to this, at all.  For example, Gallup just
> > settle a claim for $12M.
> > 
> >    So they need a totally accurate way to prevent a cell phone call from
> > originating from their dialer.  The only thing I can think of is some sort
> > of LRN dip + LRN-to-carrier-type response.  One of their people talked to
> > Neustar, but didn't get great answers because he doesn't really understand
> > telephony.  Before I get in touch with Neustar, I thought I'd see if people
> > here have some ideas.
> > 
> >    If you provide a commercial product for this, please feel free to tell me
> > so on or off list, the customer is willing to pay for the service and we're
> > open to all options.  I don't have a budget number yet but manual dialing is
> > going to cost them quite a bit for some types of studies.
> > 
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Mary Lou Carey
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