[VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy
Mary Lou Carey
marylou at backuptelecom.com
Wed Aug 19 14:34:17 EDT 2015
It's in LERG 6.
NPAC is used to associate the TN to the LRN so it can go to the right carrier.
They have no concern what type of call it is other than which databases it
should be dipped from. The LERG is the authority on routing so that's the one
you'll have to look in. Also, each thousand can be different so you can't just
pull by A block. I would pull LERG 6 data and map it to the LRN from LERG 12 by
associating the switch in both. LERG 6 has multiple switch homing arrangements,
but all LRNs from the same NPA-NXX will have the same homing arrangement.
Mary Lou Carey
BackUP Telecom Consulting
615-791-9969
> On August 19, 2015 at 1:09 PM Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Mary Lou. But does the NPAC have any such fields as well?
>
> Incidentally, where are the COCTYPE/SSC/COTYPE fields in the LERG? I was
> just getting the operator designation from LERG1, and mapping LRNs from
> LERG12.
> .
> Keep in mind I'm viewing lergdata.mdb on Linux, and that's an enormous pain
> and doesn't lend itself to easy exploration. :-)
>
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> Sent from my BlackBerry.
> From: Mary Lou Carey
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 13:59
> To: Alex Balashov; James Milko
> Reply To: Mary Lou Carey
> Cc: VoiceOps
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed
> accuracy
>
>
> I am an AOCN and yes the LERG has fields that differentiates between wireline
> and wireless. There are actually three fields that you could filter by:
>
> COCTYPE: Identifies the type of code
> SSC: Identifies the type of service
> COTYPE: Identifies the type of carrier
>
> Mary Lou Carey
> BackUP Telecom Consulting
> 615-791-9969
>
>
> > > On August 19, 2015 at 12:32 PM James Milko <jmilko at bandwidth.com> wrote:
> >
> > NPAC has a service type field that indicates wireless/wireline. That
> > doesn't solve for native numbers though since they won't have LRN data since
> > they don't have LRNs. I don't remember offhand if LERG has a
> > wireless/wireline indication for a given [A]OCN or block.
> >
> > James Milko
> > Architect, Network Engineering
> > 900 Main Campus Drive
> > Raleigh, NC 27606
> > Bandwidth <http://www.bandwidth.com/business/>
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com
> > <mailto:abalashov at evaristesys.com> > wrote:
> > > > > Indeed, you'd start from the NPAC, which would get you, for a
> > > > > given TN, an LRN. Then what?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC
> > > 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300
> > > Atlanta, GA 30346
> > > United States
> > >
> > > Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct)
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> > >
> > > Sent from my BlackBerry.
> > > Original Message
> > > From: Kidd Filby
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:52
> > > To: Carlos Alvarez
> > > Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with
> > > guaranteed accuracy
> > >
> > > If I were to offer this service or database access, I would start with
> > > my own local copy of NPAC that I'd update every X-minutes a day. This
> > > product is available now and has been for a while. This is the only
> > > sure-way, I know of, to have the most accurate data to work from.
> > >
> > > Kidd
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com
> > > <mailto:caalvarez at gmail.com> > wrote:
> > > I have a customer in market research who is legally required to
> > > manually dial calls to cell phones. Right now they are considering
> > > abandoning all of their auto/predictive dialer software and going to
> > > manual dial for everything, because the list-scrubbing services have been
> > > shown to be inaccurate. There are extreme penalties for auto-dialing a
> > > cell phone, and "best effort" is NOT a defense to this, at all. For
> > > example, Gallup just settle a claim for $12M.
> > >
> > > So they need a totally accurate way to prevent a cell phone call from
> > > originating from their dialer. The only thing I can think of is some sort
> > > of LRN dip + LRN-to-carrier-type response. One of their people talked to
> > > Neustar, but didn't get great answers because he doesn't really understand
> > > telephony. Before I get in touch with Neustar, I thought I'd see if
> > > people here have some ideas.
> > >
> > > If you provide a commercial product for this, please feel free to tell
> > > me so on or off list, the customer is willing to pay for the service and
> > > we're open to all options. I don't have a budget number yet but manual
> > > dialing is going to cost them quite a bit for some types of studies.
> > >
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> Mary Lou Carey
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