[VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

Jared Geiger jared at compuwizz.net
Fri Aug 21 14:39:49 EDT 2015


It seems ANI Networks has a product that would work. When you do an LRN
dip, it can show the OCN Category such as Cellular. Looks like it also
supports DNC list support.

http://aninetworks.com/PDF/ANI_Networks_Routing_Registry_Service.pdf

I don't have any experience with the product, but looks like this is what
you need.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com> wrote:

> Their lists are already cleaned by NPA-NXX, it's just not sufficient any
> more because of LNP.  Looks like the TCPA compliance product from Neustar,
> which someone else posted yesterday, is the best solution.  Pretty cheap
> too.  It's just indicates intermodal porting of a number with no other info.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:40 PM Paul Timmins <paul at timmins.net> wrote:
>
>> I know a guy who runs a site that sells the npa nxx to carrier type at a
>> fraction of the lerg costs....
>>
>> On Aug 19, 2015 11:39 AM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > ‎Indeed, you'd start from the NPAC, which would get you, for a given
>> TN, an LRN. Then what?
>> > ‎
>> > --
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>> > Sent from my BlackBerry.
>> >   Original Message
>> > From: Kidd Filby
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:52
>> > To: Carlos Alvarez
>> > Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org
>> > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed
>> accuracy
>> >
>> > If I were to offer this service or database access, I would start with
>> my own local copy of NPAC that I'd update every X-minutes a day.  This
>> product is available now and has been for a while.  This is the only
>> sure-way, I know of, to have the most accurate data to work from.
>> >
>> > Kidd
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I have a customer in market research who is legally required to
>> manually dial calls to cell phones.  Right now they are considering
>> abandoning all of their auto/predictive dialer software and going to manual
>> dial for everything, because the list-scrubbing services have been shown to
>> be inaccurate.  There are extreme penalties for auto-dialing a cell phone,
>> and "best effort" is NOT a defense to this, at all.  For example, Gallup
>> just settle a claim for $12M.
>> >
>> > So they need a totally accurate way to prevent a cell phone call from
>> originating from their dialer.  The only thing I can think of is some sort
>> of LRN dip + LRN-to-carrier-type response.  One of their people talked to
>> Neustar, but didn't get great answers because he doesn't really understand
>> telephony.  Before I get in touch with Neustar, I thought I'd see if people
>> here have some ideas.
>> >
>> > If you provide a commercial product for this, please feel free to tell
>> me so on or off list, the customer is willing to pay for the service and
>> we're open to all options.  I don't have a budget number yet but manual
>> dialing is going to cost them quite a bit for some types of studies.
>> >
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