[VoiceOps] Instant Porting
Mary Lou Carey
marylou at backuptelecom.com
Wed Feb 10 12:20:14 EST 2016
I couldn't pull up the WPR, but obviously their WPR is nothing like an LSR,
which is all written in code and requires a bunch of fields that verify way more
than just the TN/PIN/Address/ZIP accuracy.
My guess is that it doesn't require a lot of training to teach someone how to
fill out a WPRs because they're in English and to the point. Unlike LSRs that
you need an LSOG guide to understand what it's asking for, hours of training to
know which fields to populate, and the patience of a saint to fight your way
through the process! Sounds like WPRs is the form that all carriers should use
to simplify the process, but then iconectiv would be out of business and it
would make it way easier for carriers to port numbers away from the ILECs so I
don't see that happening without a fight. I guess I should be thankful because
it gives people like me a job, but the whole ASR/LSR process just seems stupid
to me - like reading the bible in Latin to a group of people who only speak
English!
Mary Lou Carey
BackUP Telecom Consulting
615-791-9969
> On February 10, 2016 at 12:00 PM Paul Timmins <paul at timmins.net> wrote:
>
> My understanding is that the winning carrier submits the subscription, issues
> an electronic WPR (https://www.syniverse.com/files/Single_Line_WPR
> <https://www.syniverse.com/files/Single_Line_WPR.pdf> .pdf
> <https://www.syniverse.com/files/Single_Line_WPR.pdf> ) - similar to an LSR.
> The losing carrier verifies the WPR's accuracy (TN/PIN/Address/Zip) and issues
> a confirmation and concurrence, and then the winning carrier electronically
> activates in SOA.
>
>
> Given this is 100% electronic (and all the majors use Syniverse for their
> SOA) it's immediate. Wireless carriers don't really have to worry about things
> like "do they have complex services like DSL, FTTH with bundle packaging,
> etc". They just drop the customer's subscriber information out of the switch
> and send a final bill.
>
> -Paul
>
> On 02/10/2016 11:50 AM, Mary Lou Carey wrote:
>
> > > I really wonder if the big wireless carriers follow the same
> > > process that wireline carriers do because the typical wireline
> > > process takes more than 5 minutes to complete. The whole process is:
> >
> > 1. Issue an LSR order to the losing carrier requesting the port.
> > 2. When you get confirmation, submit the port request in NPAC (or a SOA
> > system connected to NPAC)
> > 3. Losing carrier confirms the port
> > 4. Winning carrier accepts the port
> >
> > The greatest portion of time is spent on getting the losing carrier to
> > accept the LSR and give confirmation, so I'm thinking these wireless
> > carriers must have agreements set up between them that allows them to bypass
> > the LSR process and just complete the NPAC work!
> >
> > Mary Lou Carey
> > BackUP Telecom Consulting
> > 615-791-9969
> >
> >
> > > > > On February 10, 2016 at 9:57 AM Nick Olsen <nick at flhsi.com>
> > > > > <mailto:nick at flhsi.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Exactly this.
> > >
> > > I actually ported my personal cell number to Verizon from ATT
> > > yesterday.
> > >
> > > Gave the rep my ATT account number, He 30 seconds later asked me for
> > > the PIN I set on my ATT account. I provided and my number was working
> > > before I hit the door on the way out. Total port time was <5 Min.
> > >
> > > I questioned the Rep if this was always the case and he said only if
> > > porting from Sprint/ATT/T-Mobile. And that basically any other carrier
> > > (Not including MVNO's of the above) took 3-5 Business days. Which is about
> > > in-line with my current wireline porting.
> > >
> > > I figure they all exchange so many numbers a day it was in all of
> > > their best interest to work together.
> > >
> > > Not to mention, By automating the process. They don't have to keep
> > > an entire call center worth of LNP personnel to handle their volume.
> > >
> > > Nick Olsen
> > > Network Operations
> > > (855) FLSPEED x106
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > From: "Alexander Lopez" <alex.lopez at opsys.com>
> > > <mailto:alex.lopez at opsys.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 6:00 PM
> > > To: "Alex Balashov" <abalashov at evaristesys.com>
> > > <mailto:abalashov at evaristesys.com> , "voiceops at voiceops.org"
> > > <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org> <voiceops at voiceops.org>
> > > <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Instant Porting
> > >
> > > I think the incentive is to cooperate because it is a relatively
> > > small group of wireless carriers compared to wireline.
> > >
> > > The main reason being that they don't want their ports held up, so
> > > they work well with others.
> > >
> > > Also since there is a small group they could automate the back
> > > office processes between them and submit the request and aknowledgment
> > > quickly and without human interaction.
> > >
> > >
> > > -------- Original message --------
> > > From: Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com>
> > > <mailto:abalashov at evaristesys.com>
> > > Date: 2/9/2016 4:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
> > > To: voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Instant Porting
> > >
> > > This does raise, in light of the OP, the question of what economic
> > > or
> > > political incentive wireless carriers have to cooperate in
> > > relatively
> > > seamless porting to/from each other.
> > >
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> > Mary Lou Carey
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Mary Lou Carey
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