[VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems

[Mary Lou Carey]

It is a good alternative if you don't offer DSL, TLS, UNEs, etc but it's 
more cost effective to do it as an Interconnected VOIP carrier than as a 
CLEC if you go that route.

MARY LOU CAREY
BackUP Telecom Consulting
Office: 615-791-9969
Cell: 615-796-1111

On 2019-08-16 10:44 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> *nods* it's the transport piece I don't have. Transport to all of
> these tandems at reasonable prices. I figured since they did have
> those pieces, it'd be a good alternative. Maybe not.
> 
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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> FROM: "Paul Timmins" <paul at timmins.net>
> TO: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net>
> CC: "VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org>
> SENT: Saturday, August 10, 2019 1:20:43 AM
> SUBJECT: Re: [VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems
> 
> Inteliquent has several products:
> 
> Outbound IXC termination - good for sending translated toll free
> calls. They give you money for sending the calls.
> LTS - inbound and outbound local/local toll exchange with inteliquent
> members. Not an A-Z product, but the cheapest way to send calls to
> tmo/comcast/etc. You get the calls back through this too.
> IXC terminating inbound - they become the tandem of record in the LERG
> for your interlata traffic. I think they give you a cut of the tandem
> transit fee they charge IXCs but it's been a while since I read the
> contract.
> AIA - outbound LD product, not A-Z - super competitive rates to on-net
> carriers and a few others they get a deal on. If someone else uses
> this, it comes in the IXC terminating inbound and you bill
> inteliquent's CIC for the inbound inter carrier compensation where
> applicable. They make their money in not having to pay the tandem
> transit and other crap that an IXC would ordinarily pay to terminate,
> but they still pay the terminating carrier's inter carrier comp.
> 
> Local interconnection service - mostly for interconnected voip. You
> use their switches too interconnect. Not cheaper than doing it
> yourself, unless you don't already have a TDM switch and SS7 links and
> transport. If you lack either of the 3, it can work out financially.
> 
> -Paul
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2019, at 5:42 PM, Mike Hammett <voiceops at ics-il.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I wanted to note that I am still interested in working with
>> competitive tandem providers for "on-net" calls...  calls among
>> their customers, without ever hitting an ILEC tandem.
>> 
>> Also, now that I look at their web page...  it says it allows me to
>> receive both local and long distance calls using that service...
>> which seems to conflict with what the sales guy told me.  *sigh*
>> 
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>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com [1]
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
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>> FROM: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net>
>> TO: "VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> SENT: Friday, August 9, 2019 2:42:37 PM
>> SUBJECT: [VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems
>> 
>> I'm evaluating methods of extending our footprint. I purposely left
>> out company names.
>> 
>> One of the companies we talked to was really only interested in
>> getting us the inbound long distance calls, not the local ones.
>> Well, they would, but the terms were vastly different.
>> 
>> Given that I still need to build out to connect to the local tandem,
>> what's the point in using a third party to connect to long distance?
>> 
>> Are the terms for connecting to the local tandems different because
>> the access tandem is simpler, whereas the local tandem could
>> potentially involve connections to a bunch of other switches, once
>> volume dictated I needed direct connections...  and they don't want
>> to deal with that?
>> 
>> Are there third parties that don't have vastly different terms for
>> local tandem services?
>> 
>> Also, is it likely that I just don't understand what's going on? I
>> went circles with the sales rep to make sure I understood what he
>> was saying, but I could be wrong.
>> 
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
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