[VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems

[Mike Hammett]

*nods* 


I have been talking to people at Inteliquent and Peerless about their PSTN Connect services. My recent conversations reflect your observations. 


I didn't bother with Wide Voice because their coverage seemed to be minuscule (didn't even have coverage in Chicago). If you think their website's stated coverage isn't accurate, I'd appreciate an introduction. 




Do you think the vast difference in approaches (and thus requirements) taken by Inteliquent vs. Peerless or Wide Voice are simply business interest vs. something fundamental that I'm missing? 






I'm trying to be somewhat vague in my statements and questions, erring on the side of caution regarding whatever NDAs I may have signed and speaking in a public venue. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Mary Lou Carey" <marylou at backuptelecom.com> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net> 
Cc: "VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org> 
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 2:12:04 PM 
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems 

The service you are looking for is called PSTN Connection service, but 
you need to have either an FCC IPES certification (Direct Access to 
Numbering Resources) or a CLEC license. I have contacts at Inteliquent, 
Peerless, and Wide Voice if you need them. PSTN connection service is 
turned up on a per LATA basis so you don't have to limit yourself to one 
carrier for the entire country unless you want to. Its my understanding 
Wide Voice covers more areas for IPES providers than they do for CLEC. 

Peerless and Wide Voice will work with anyone.....Inteliquent used to be 
willing to work with anyone but in the last year they've been less 
interested in serving IPES companies that don't have a significant 
amount of traffic to start out with. That could have changed since they 
were just bought out, but that's been my experience while helping 
carriers turn up their networks over the last year. 

MARY LOU CAREY 
BackUP Telecom Consulting 
Office: 615-791-9969 
Cell: 615-796-1111 

On 2021-07-07 08:12 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
> At the suggestion of this mailing list, I started pursuing the 
> IVP/IPES route instead of trying to do my expansions via CLEC 
> authority. 
> 
> I've had conversations with a few companies to enable the IPES 
> services, Verizon, Inteliquent, Intrado (West), and Peerless. I 
> haven't talked to Wide Voice because their stated coverage is 
> inadequate. I haven't talked to Level 3 because they never answered 
> me. 
> 
> * One of the conversations went nowhere because while they knew what 
> I was talking about, they didn't think they had a product for that. 
> Their rates for adjacent services were actually reasonable. 
> * One had it productized, but had a 5 figure minimum monthly commit. 
> The stated reason was that the LECs are a pain and they wanted to make 
> sure they had a decent return before they committed resources. 
> * One had only part of the solution, still requiring me to build out 
> the tandems myself for the ILEC interconnection. 
> * One had it productized and had no monthly minimum. 
> 
> Okay, so four very different responses from four companies. The one 
> seems like the a slam dunk, but being a slam drunk in the face of such 
> difficulty, I become skeptical. We're coming from a TDM, voice CLEC 
> background, not a retail SIP provider background. Is there something 
> I'm underestimating in this process? 
> 
> ----- 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> http://www.ics-il.com 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
> 
> ------------------------- 
> 
> From: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net> 
> To: "VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org> 
> Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 2:42:37 PM 
> Subject: [VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems 
> 
> I'm evaluating methods of extending our footprint. I purposely left 
> out company names. 
> 
> One of the companies we talked to was really only interested in 
> getting us the inbound long distance calls, not the local ones. Well, 
> they would, but the terms were vastly different. 
> 
> Given that I still need to build out to connect to the local tandem, 
> what's the point in using a third party to connect to long distance? 
> 
> Are the terms for connecting to the local tandems different because 
> the access tandem is simpler, whereas the local tandem could 
> potentially involve connections to a bunch of other switches, once 
> volume dictated I needed direct connections... and they don't want to 
> deal with that? 
> 
> Are there third parties that don't have vastly different terms for 
> local tandem services? 
> 
> Also, is it likely that I just don't understand what's going on? I 
> went circles with the sales rep to make sure I understood what he was 
> saying, but I could be wrong. 
> 
> ----- 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> http://www.ics-il.com 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
> 
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