[VoiceOps] Ray Baum's act and all-softphone deployments

[Carlos Alvarez]

They probably don't, and I don't think they are covered by the same
law/requirements.  Also, they have far more schills(COUGH) I mean lobbyists
in congress.

FLOOR could be determined by AP lists, probably.  Maybe.  Specific office
seems impossible currently.


On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 1:05 PM Alex Balashov via VoiceOps <
voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:

> And how do the cell phone operators know what floor you’re on?
>
> —
> Sent from mobile, with due apologies for brevity and errors.
>
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> It used to be, then the whole Ray Baum thing, and now it's not.  Short
> story:  911 call failed to identify the specific floor/office, person
> died.  Now you have to provide enough info for a first responder to reach a
> person without help, which also means opening main doors if needed.
> There's simply no way that a laptop will give that specificity.  Will it be
> sufficient to say that they are near the AP on the third floor southwest
> corner?  The letter of the law seems to say "no."
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 12:40 PM Alex Balashov via VoiceOps <
> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>
>> I wonder if doing GeoIP via a commercial database like MaxMind—and we all
>> know how perfect a location mechanism that is—could be construed as a
>> sufficient “best effort” in this case.
>>
>> > On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:28 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ours doesn't, but that's a good idea to share with the vendor.  But in
>> most cases, people are using the softphone on a laptop and there's no
>> native phone app, nor a GPS, nor any other location info other than
>> proximate wi-fi networks.
>> >
>> > I can see no feasible way to meet the letter of the law, and hate to be
>> depending on the good graces of a bureaucrat to know that it's an
>> impossible task.
>>
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