[VoiceOps] thinQ is making hay while Bandwidth is down

Paul Timmins ptimmins at clearrate.com
Tue Sep 28 13:08:50 EDT 2021


As long as they could reach the NPAC, they could port. Everything else is just formalities and details that are technically optional.

From: Aryn Nakaoka 808.356.2901 <anakaoka at trinet-hi.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 12:52 PM
To: Paul Timmins <ptimmins at clearrate.com>
Cc: Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com>; VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org>
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] thinQ is making hay while Bandwidth is down

If there is a DDOS like the one that is happening to Bandwidth, would Thinq even be able to port "internally"?

Knowing Thinq uses Bandwidth and Inteliquent... Bandwidth said porting was disabled during the DDOS, so how would Thinq get them to port to Inteliquent (assuming the same coverage / cost)?

Our ports take 9 working days, the losing carriers have days to respond.

Thanks,
Aryn



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On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 6:35 PM Paul Timmins <ptimmins at clearrate.com<mailto:ptimmins at clearrate.com>> wrote:
There is literally no TECHNICAL reason they can't. I've helped out other local carriers with some problems where we took over numbers in less than 10 minutes between wireline carriers and just set up forwarding for their customers til the outage was resolved. I moved 200 of my own numbers from another local carrier to my own network with 5 minutes notice coordinating the port over ICQ back when that was a thing. It's been possible for years, people just don't often do it.

If both carriers log into LTI at the same time and build the subscription and the matching release, the number can be ported instantly. I pulled an old cell phone like that by logging into syniverse, submitting a WLSR to Sprint, and immediately built the subscription, they immediately matched it electronically, and I clicked activate and the number was on me, bam.

The real issue is getting the losing carrier to remove the routes (or setting TAT triggers that do an LNP dip before terminating so the calls route correctly the second they're updated in NPAC) and if that is done, then you're good to go. If I was a company like thinq, I'd work with my partner carriers to let me move my numbers around between them quickly in a similar fashion to create a real differentiated product.

-Paul

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 5:53 PM, Alex Balashov via VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>> wrote:
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> No, nobody can “flash-port” numbers to a different LRN like that. Anyone who claims this has a bridge to sell you.
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> This capability is indeed limited to SMS/800.
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>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 5:47 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com<mailto:caalvarez at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> It would be interesting if they could do DID re-routing quickly
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