[VoiceOps] Abandoned Ported Numbers

Mike Hammett voiceops at ics-il.net
Fri Oct 14 11:19:25 EDT 2022


How would the original carrier know? I've never seen anything about numbers being returned to us. Maybe my employees are ignoring them, maybe the emails are lost, maybe we have to fetch it from somewhere. 




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From: "Jeff Shultz via VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org> 
To: voiceops at voiceops.org 
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 10:06:48 AM 
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Abandoned Ported Numbers 


I know the LNP coordinator in our company occasionally sends out "NPAC Disconnects" spreadsheets of numbers that have been returned to us, so presumably this is an NPAC process. 


On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 8:03 AM Greg Stone via VoiceOps < voiceops at voiceops.org > wrote: 





It's been a long time since I've used NPAC personally but there is a cancel button if I recall correctly and it pushes the number back to the original pooling carrier. 







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-------- Original message -------- 
From: Mike Hammett < voiceops at ics-il.net > 
Date: 10/14/22 7:49 AM (GMT-08:00) 
To: Greg Stone < Greg.Stone at race.com > 
Cc: Mike Johnston < mjohnston at wiktel.com >, voiceops at voiceops.org 
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Abandoned Ported Numbers 



		
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From: "Greg Stone via VoiceOps" < voiceops at voiceops.org > 
To: "Mike Johnston" < mjohnston at wiktel.com >, voiceops at voiceops.org 
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 9:47:28 AM 
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Abandoned Ported Numbers 



Common practice is to age them out and then push them back to the original block holder. 







Greg Stone 
Senior Voice Network Engineer 
Race Communications 
E : greg.stone at race.com 
P : +1 8777223833 
Web : Visit Race.com 






-------- Original message -------- 
From: Mike Johnston via VoiceOps < voiceops at voiceops.org > 
Date: 10/14/22 7:37 AM (GMT-08:00) 
To: voiceops at voiceops.org 
Subject: [VoiceOps] Abandoned Ported Numbers 


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Say a subscriber ports a number to/from a different telco. Then, after 
some time, the subscriber decides they no longer want the phone number 
(or phone service in general). What should be done with this abandoned 
number? 

Should the number immediately be returned to the donor telco? 

Should the number be returned to the donor telco after aging? 

Is it permissible for the recipient telco to add this number to their 
inventory and then re-assign the number to a different subscriber? 
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