[VoiceOps] Abandoned Ported Numbers

Fri Oct 14 15:53:42 EDT 2022

NPAC Helpdesk has a form called MUMP that you can use to return TNs or 
thousand blocks. You log into the NPAC Helpdesk to download a copy of 
the form and then submit it via a service order. If you need help doing 
it I can walk you through it.

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On 2022-10-14 02:41 PM, Nick Olsen via VoiceOps wrote:
> Depends on who/what you use for NPAC access, or if you use like
> LTI..etc.
> 
>  We built our own SOA and LSMS XML platform so we didn't have to go
> through a third-party like Neustar or 10x..etc.
> 
>  We get a notification (via our normal XML mechanized interface) when
> a TN is disconnected in the NPAC back to us for any of our SPID's.
> Likewise there is a SOA action you can call to disconnect/remove an SV
> for a given TN.
> 
>  Not everyone does it. But most of the iLEC's ..etc do honor it and
> disconnect TN's back regularly.
> 
>  If you use LTI, I'm not sure how it's presented there.
> 
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> 
> From: VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> on behalf of Mike
> Hammett via VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 11:19 AM
> To: Jeff Shultz <jeffshultz at sctcweb.com>
> Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org <voiceops at voiceops.org>
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Abandoned Ported Numbers
> 
>  How would the original carrier know? I've never seen anything about
> numbers being returned to us. Maybe my employees are ignoring them,
> maybe the emails are lost, maybe we have to fetch it from somewhere.
> 
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>  From: "Jeff Shultz via VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org>
> To: voiceops at voiceops.org
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 10:06:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Abandoned Ported Numbers
> 
> I know the LNP coordinator in our company occasionally sends out "NPAC
> Disconnects" spreadsheets of numbers that have been returned to us, so
> presumably this is an NPAC process.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 8:03 AM Greg Stone via VoiceOps
> <voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
> 
>> It's been a long time since I've used NPAC personally but there is a
>> cancel button if I recall correctly and it pushes the number back to
>> the original pooling carrier.
>> 
>> Greg Stone
>> Senior Voice Network Engineer
>> Race Communications
>> E : greg.stone at race.com
>> 
>> P : +1 8777223833 [1]__
>> 
>> Web : Visit Race.com [2]
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Mike Hammett <voiceops at ics-il.net>
>> Date: 10/14/22 7:49 AM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: Greg Stone <Greg.Stone at race.com>
>> Cc: Mike Johnston <mjohnston at wiktel.com>, voiceops at voiceops.org
>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Abandoned Ported Numbers
>> 
>> You don't often get email from voiceops at ics-il.net. Learn why this
>> is important [3]
>> 
>> How does that work?
>> 
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>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
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>> -------------------------
>> 
>> From: "Greg Stone via VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> To: "Mike Johnston" <mjohnston at wiktel.com>, voiceops at voiceops.org
>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 9:47:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Abandoned Ported Numbers
>> 
>> Common practice is to age them out and then push them back to the
>> original block holder.
>> 
>> Greg Stone
>> Senior Voice Network Engineer
>> Race Communications
>> E : greg.stone at race.com
>> 
>> P : +1 8777223833 [1]__
>> 
>> Web : Visit Race.com [4]
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Mike Johnston via VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org>
>> Date: 10/14/22 7:37 AM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: voiceops at voiceops.org
>> Subject: [VoiceOps] Abandoned Ported Numbers
>> 
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>> 
>> Say a subscriber ports a number to/from a different telco.  Then,
>> after
>> some time, the subscriber decides they no longer want the phone
>> number
>> (or phone service in general).  What should be done with this
>> abandoned
>> number?
>> 
>> Should the number immediately be returned to the donor telco?
>> 
>> Should the number be returned to the donor telco after aging?
>> 
>> Is it permissible for the recipient telco to add this number to
>> their
>> inventory and then re-assign the number to a different subscriber?
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