<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">KQtek out of taiwan makes a voip ata(EMG202) based around Dial-up. Its definitely an experience, but is "widely" used in parts of Africa. <cite>www.<b>kqtek</b>.com/p_<b>EMG202</b>.htm</cite><div><i><br></i></div><div><div>There site appears to be unreachable right now but i know a few companies that support it such as Delta3 & Talkfree.</div><div><br></div><div>Colin</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 9, 2009, at 12:29 PM, Lee Riemer wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I've had success using dial-up internet over a voip connection. Latency was 400+ms to the gateway. I wouldn't recommend it as a pleasurable experience, but it worked.<br><br>On 12/9/2009 11:14 AM, Carlos Alcantar wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">On another note have you do you know if the alarm modem will work over<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">voip? With my experience fax works with t.38 normal modem calls not so<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">well. Hit and miss.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">From: <a href="mailto:voiceops-bounces@voiceops.org">voiceops-bounces@voiceops.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">[mailto:voiceops-bounces@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:05 AM<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: <a href="mailto:Brian_Tate@syncglobal.net">Brian_Tate@syncglobal.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cc: <a href="mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org">VoiceOps@voiceops.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] analog pulse dialing solutions<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">It might be cheaper to pay to upgrade their alarm panel, just a thought.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Brian Tate wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thanks for all the pointers!<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">The application is supporting an old alarm system that only supports<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">pulse<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">dialing over an analog line. The customer is located in a rural area.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">> From what I have found so far, only the Innomedia models seems to<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">explicitly<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">support the feature. We aren't a Cisco shop.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thanks,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Brian<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">From: Matt Yaklin [mailto:myaklin@g4.net]<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:17 PM<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: Paul Timmins<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cc: <a href="mailto:Brian_Tate@syncglobal.net">Brian_Tate@syncglobal.net</a>; <a href="mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org">VoiceOps@voiceops.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] analog pulse dialing solutions<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I cannot even think of a legacy setup that would require pulse<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">dialing...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">It must be a heck of a customer account to warrant putting in this<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">research and work to get their contract.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">One has to wonder if you could just go on ebay and buy them a new kit<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">for 99 bucks and it would be 15 years newer yet still 10 years old ;-)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Here customer, a freebie!<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Just for curiousity sake could you share with us the legacy setup that<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">got you onto this path?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">But some google foo turned up URLs like this:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://soundwin.co.uk/s202.html">http://soundwin.co.uk/s202.html</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">which says it supports pulse dialing.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Pulse Dial support: Support pulse dialing generation and<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">detection.(Optional)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">good luck and let us know how it all works out.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:matt@g4.net">matt@g4.net</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Paul Timmins wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">And someone here was saying that technologies obsoleted by better<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">options<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">die<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">a quick death. Hah! :)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Brian Tate wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Can anyone share experience with supporting legacy systems that<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">require<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">analog pulse dialing?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">It seems that SIP ATA?s and VoIP media gateways prefer tone dialing<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">instead.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Do the ?dial pulse to DTMF? converters really work for business<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">class<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">services?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">?Anyone selling good implementations of US Patent 6914978?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thanks in advance,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Brian<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">* SyncGlobal, a DoveTel Communications Company ***<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">* Engineer 678-821-1129 *<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">* Brian_Tate@SyncGlobal.net<<a href="mailto:Brian_Tate@SyncGlobal.net">mailto:Brian_Tate@SyncGlobal.net</a>> *<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> 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