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Have you asked your Carrier Account Manager if they can get you a
list of all their certified vendors for manhole work? <br>
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Many of those provide turnkey style services, and as a plus often
have access to AT&T's facilities management systems and have a
general idea if the paths you want to take are too full, or if there
are any special requirements.<br>
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I know they have to provide the list of tier 1 vendors for CO
installation work, so they may have one for their outside facilities
too. If not, you may want to call the tier 1 CO vendors - if they
don't do it themselves they often know someone who does.<br>
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-Paul<br>
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On 10/05/2011 10:18 PM, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
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<div>Ultimately I would like to find someone who is familiar
with the att process as well as someone who is familiar with
the engineering side of the rows. I've not had much luck
finding a construction company that is familiar with this
entire process. If you know anyone that is looking for some
work that has these qualifications please pass me there
name.</div>
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<p style="margin: 0px; font: 8.5px Arial; color: rgb(22,
67, 116);"><b>Carlos Alcantar</b></p>
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144, 144);"><span style="color: rgb(22, 67, 116);"><b>Race
Communications</b></span><span style="color: rgb(0,
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Race Team Member <br>
101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080<br>
<span style="color: rgb(22, 67, 116);"><b>Phone:</b></span><span
style="color: rgb(66, 66, 66);"><b>
</b></span>+1 415 376 3314<span style="color: rgb(27,
0, 126);"> </span><span style="color: rgb(22, 67,
116);"><b>Fax:</b></span><span style="color: rgb(27,
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650 246 8901<span style="color: rgb(30, 88, 148);">
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">From: </span>Paul Timmins
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">Date: </span>Wed, 5 Oct 2011
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">To: </span>Carlos Alcantar
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span>Re:
[VoiceOps] AT&T Right of Ways<br>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">As far as I know, most
of the time you're going to need contractors certified to
work in AT&T's ducts and manholes anyway (or people with
requisite training to engineer the cabling for proper
anchoring, wind load, and other things on aerial cable).
Most of them are familiar with the ROW application process.
If you don't have people who are qualified to do the
engineering to demonstrate your cable won't unduly damage
the poles, and has appropriate wind load, you've got a lot
of work and education ahead of you unless you use a
qualified contractor anyway.<br>
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If you want to do your own, my suggestion is to have someone
else do your first set, and then you have a working copy of
all the paperwork and the complex processes necessary to
make it all work. In Michigan, for example, you also need
permitting from the municipality even though you're using
the existing utilities easement, which if you're a CLEC
there's a process called the METRO act that you go through
that gives you basically rubber stamped right of way access
(you still need the pole attachments from the ILEC, or the
duct assignments).<br>
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Additionally, if you're going aerial, you need to inspect
the route to ensure AT&T owns the poles you need access
to. They can only give you ROW on poles they own (I think
joint use agreements count here too) but if they lease the
poles from the power company you will have to work with them
to get access as well.<br>
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-Paul<br>
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<div>Anyone familiar with doing all the paper work and
design work for using the right of ways in the
AT&T states? We have the row in our ICA
amendments and looking for the first time to
possibly use them.</div>
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<b>Carlos Alcantar</b></p>
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rgb(144, 144, 144);">
<span style="color: rgb(22, 67, 116);"><b>Race
Communications</b></span><span style="color:
rgb(0, 158, 104);">
</span><span style="color: rgb(30, 88, 148);">/</span>
Race Team Member <br>
101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080<br>
<span style="color: rgb(22, 67, 116);"><b>Phone:</b></span><span
style="color: rgb(66, 66, 66);"><b>
</b></span>+1 415 376 3314<span style="color:
rgb(27, 0, 126);"> </span><span style="color:
rgb(22, 67, 116);"><b>Fax:</b></span><span
style="color: rgb(27, 0, 126);"><b>
</b></span><span style="color: rgb(70, 185,
235);"><b> </b></span>+1 650 246 8901<span
style="color: rgb(30, 88, 148);">
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