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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hello Ivan,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>NeuStar offers two databases that will provide the answer you need. The first one is the SIP-IX product which is the North American number portability database which can be queried on a call by call basis or downloaded in bulk. This database include a data field which indicates the whether the called number is wireless or wireline. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The number portability database includes all ported numbers and probably over 50% of non-ported numbers. So you will still need a database that covers all un-ported number and includes a data filed indicating if the number is wireless or wireline. The second NeuStar database you will need is the CC1 database which can be downloaded on a daily basis.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So to get a 100% solution you would first query the North American number portability database (NPAC) to determine if the destination is wireless or wireline. If you do not get a answer, the second step would be to query the CC1 database.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As you noted you could create the same solution by querying the NPAC first and then a Telcordia database such as the LERG or NNACL. As an alternative you could also try <a href="http://www.telcodata.us/">http://www.telcodata.us/</a> which offers basically the same information found in the LERG. In addition to NeuStar and Telcordia, you can also subscribe to NPAC data from TNSI and Syniverse. So if you dig around you will find you have a few options. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jim Dalton<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>TransNexus<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> voiceops-bounces@voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces@voiceops.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ivan Kovacevic<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Alex Balashov'<br><b>Cc:</b> voiceops@voiceops.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [VoiceOps] Mobile vs. Landline Lookup<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Alex,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your reply. Obviously my initial post lacked clarity, so let me try to fix that. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The client is looking for a way to determine whether a phone number is mobile or landline. What is best way to determine that? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Are Telcordia DBs the only game in town or are there easier, cheaper, better solutions? Is the method different for Canadian and US numbers? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks again for your reply and sorry about the lack of clarity in the initial post. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ivan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Alex Balashov <a href="mailto:[mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com]">[mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com]</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> November-07-11 8:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ivan Kovacevic<br><b>Cc:</b> <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [VoiceOps] Mobile vs. Landline Lookup<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-CA>LNP dips work the same way for fixed and wireless.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span lang=EN-CA>--</span></span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span lang=EN-CA>This message was painstakingly thumbed out on my mobile, so apologies for brevity, errors, and general sloppiness.</span></span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Alex Balashov - Principal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Evariste Systems LLC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>260 Peachtree Street NW<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Suite 2200<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Atlanta, GA 30303<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Tel: +1-678-954-0670<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Fax: +1-404-961-1892<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Web: <a href="http://www.evaristesys.com/">http://www.evaristesys.com/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-CA><br>On Nov 7, 2011, at 5:53 PM, "Ivan Kovacevic" <<a href="mailto:ivank@rogers.com">ivank@rogers.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA>Hi, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA>Does anyone have any experience doing mobile vs. landline lookups for US and Canada? What would be the best way to do this? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA>A client has asked us whether this can be done and to be frank, I am not sure how we would go about it with LNP implemented in both countries. So we are looking for some pointers… Any help is appreciated. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA>Thanks in advance,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA>Ivan <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>_______________________________________________<br>VoiceOps mailing list<br><a href="mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org">VoiceOps@voiceops.org</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>