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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Also Netxusa (Our main wholesale supplier) has a similar price. I'd always suggest buying from them over Newegg due to the support. (I'm a huge fan of Netxusa).
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<div>On Feb 6, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Nathan Anderson <<a href="mailto:nathana@fsr.com">nathana@fsr.com</a>></div>
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Holy crap. I don't know how I missed the pricing for AdTran Total Access. I guess after I saw what AudioCodes and MediaTrix and Sangoma go for on average, I must have made an assumption about AdTran pricing. That totally blows Digium's seemingly-aggressive
pricing out of the water, especially if it covers all of my use-cases (which I already know the Digium doesn't).<br>
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From: David Wessell [mailto:david@ringfree.biz] <br>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:15 PM<br>
To: Nathan Anderson<br>
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP-to-TDM gateway appliance<br>
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Seconded. This is a killer topic. We've just closed our first deal for this type of situation. I had planned on going with a Adtran 904 ($725 on NewEgg) but am very interested to hear other options.
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On Feb 6, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Nathan Anderson <<a href="mailto:nathana@fsr.com">nathana@fsr.com</a>><br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>I know this has been a topic of conversation in the past, but things might have changed since the last discussion and I'm wondering what the market is currently like for such devices.<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>We deliver voice strictly via SIP/RTP, but naturally there are some potential customers out there that still have an older, non-IP-aware PBX that they're not ready to throw out yet. What are the
best and most cost-effective gateway options out there at this time? We are specifically looking for one that has a single T1 interface that can operate in either CAS or PRI modes.<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>Special requirements:<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>1) We need to be able to do DID manipulation between T1 and SIP; I presume this is a rather standard feature in most gateways given that most SIP trunk providers will send at least 10-digit DNIS
(in the INVITE and "To" fields) but DNIS on PRI is often only the last 3 or 4 digits of the TN.<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>2) There may be certain situation where we want to leave the PBX configuration as untouched/unchanged as possible (drop-in replacement service), and where there is no correllation between target
DID and the telephone number (e.g., 212-555-1212 is called, PBX is sent 4001). We'd like a gateway where static mappings like that for DID manipulation are possible, rather than just a general rule that says "strip the first 6 digits off before sending to
the PRI".<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>3) For outgoing calls, the device needs to put the calling DID (the desired Caller-ID/ANI) in the PAI header, and also needs to be able to be configured to override "From" with a static alphanumeric
value (so "From" and PAI should not match; "From" will not contain the desired ANI).<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>4) In T1 CAS singalling modes such as E&M Wink where it is possible to transmit CLID and target DID information via DTMF to the PBX, different PBXes potentially have different formats that they want
to see this information in; for example, a Nortel Norstar would expect to see *CALLERID*DNIS* (e.g., *2125550001*1212* where the caller is 212-555-0001 and the destination is 212-555-1212). Are there any gateways that support this?<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>5) It needs to have a T.38 gateway mode that can recognize a fax call, either send or accept a re-INVITE with a T.38 SDP as appropriate, and perform the "transcoding" from/to T.38 between the T1
channel and the RTP session. Just resorting to G.711 for fax passthrough is not desireable...any gateway can do that.<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>6) If in T1 CAS mode, and the PBX takes a channel "off-hook" to place an outbound call, the gateway should generate an audible dialtone.<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>...and, of course, it would be nice if we could find such a device < $1,000. :-P<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>I know I could build one myself with a mini PC and a single-span T1 card that was running Asterisk 10 and easily hit that price point, but I'd rather find a supported, off-the-shelf solution to sell
to our customers, if possible.<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>There are the "usual suspects", of course: AdTran, MediaTrix, AudioCodes, and so forth. AdTran seems to get talked about a lot here. Let's say price was no object for a second. Does anyone know
if there is a model amongst any of the ones these manufacturers produce that fulfills the above list of requirements?<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>Does anybody have any experience with Digium's relatively new line of gateways (G100/G200)? I think it would support some of these scenarios (#1 and #3) but I'm not sure about the remaining ones.
Unfortunately, although it most certainly runs on an Asterisk core, that core is only exposed to you through a clever but still-limited GUI; with direct access to the dialing plan (extensions.conf) I could accomplish all of these things myself. The price
is certainly right, though.<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>If only somebody made a reasonably-priced single-board-computer that ran raw, embedded Asterisk and had a single-span T1 interface on it. Oh wait, somebody does!:<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span><a href="http://switchvoice.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&product_id=9&category_id=2&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=30">http://switchvoice.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&product_id=9&category_id=2&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=30</a><br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>http://www.odints.com/pages/prod/completesolutions/alvis-pbx/alvisfs.htm<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>Only problem is that the first company doesn't have a U.S. distributor, and the second doesn't have a distributor that sells in single-unit quantities.<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>Would love to hear y'all's thoughts on this subject.<br>
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<span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>Thanks,<br>
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