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<font size="+1">Hi Shaun,<br>
<br>
most systems work off CDR files (or Radius or Diameter steams) so
are proprietary in what products they support (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://oculeus.com">http://oculeus.com</a>
is one such system). There are some products that are
auto-learning based on SIP monitoring so are device independent.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://tollshield.com">http://tollshield.com</a> is one of them and builds a network profile
over several week to understand "normal" traffic patterns. It can
alert on variations of those patterns. These systems requires
monitoring ports whereas the CDR approach does not need SPAN
ports.<br>
<br>
Also there is a difference between systems that can alert on fraud
on ones that can proactively shut off service to suspect devices.
The proactive ones are usually device specific and more expensive
and raise the risk of false positives. <br>
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Regards,<br>
<br>
~Glen<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/29/2015 11:19 PM, Shaun Gill
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<div>Hi Brad,</div>
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<div>Neither - We are not using a product at this stage; using a
combination of routing profiles (BSFT) and originating source
IPs to block suspect traffic.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Shaun</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Brad Anouar <<a
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday 30 January
2015 3:07 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Shaun Gill <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:shaun.gill@is.co.za">shaun.gill@is.co.za</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>Jay Cox <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jcox@appiaservices.com">jcox@appiaservices.com</a>>,
"<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [VoiceOps]
Fraud Management<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Shaun,
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<div>Have you used the SIP or CDR based product?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 3:26 PM,
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<div>Noted – I will be checking this out Jay.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Jay
Cox <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jcox@appiaservices.com"
target="_blank">jcox@appiaservices.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday
28 January 2015 3:44 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Shaun
Gill <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:shaun.gill@is.co.za"
target="_blank">shaun.gill@is.co.za</a>>, "<a
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href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org"
target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org"
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>RE:
[VoiceOps] Fraud Management<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Shaun:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I
have used the TransNexus solution for a
long time.</span></p>
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11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; ">Jay Cox</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; ">Mobile
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:314%20910%207242"
value="+13149107242" target="_blank">314
910 7242</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; "> VoiceOps [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:voiceops-bounces@voiceops.org"
target="_blank">mailto:voiceops-bounces@voiceops.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Shaun Gill<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 28,
2015 2:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org"
target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [VoiceOps] Fraud
Management</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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black; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; ">Hi Guys,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10.5pt; color:
black; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; ">Trying to get a feel
for what fraud systems are out
there for VoIP service providers;
primarily using terrestrial
mediums (such as metroE; diginet)
with clients interconnecting via
IP PBXs, voice gateways and IP
phones.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10.5pt; color:
black; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; ">We have had fraud to
international premium destinations
which we are restricting based on
calling profiles and originating
source IPs; but neither is truly
scalable.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10.5pt; color:
black; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; ">Subsequently we are
looking for alternatives.</span></p>
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