<div dir="ltr">I'd like to add to Carlos's note that Onvoy purchased Vitelity, and they are beginning to use the Vitelity portal now. I clarify because I do business with them, think the world of them, and want everyone else to go do business with them.<div><br>Thanks</div><div>David</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Carlos Alvarez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:caalvarez@gmail.com" target="_blank">caalvarez@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Alex of course is quite on point. For us, the migration from a reseller/aggregator to a real carrier was the definition of "wholesale" in both a cost and service perspective. And that's both good and bad, too. The good is obvious--pricing, technical ability, reliability. The bad includes things like Onvoy's horrifyingly bad customer portal, which takes far longer to use than those from Vitelity, VoIP Innovations, et al. In the end though the cost savings justify the extra work.<div><div class="h5"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:24 AM Alex Balashov <<a href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" target="_blank">abalashov@evaristesys.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yes, I understand that wholesale pricing is, among other things, resale grade, in the sense that it leaves an industry-standard margin relative to prevailing retail market rates.<br>
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I was trying to allude with humour to the fact that there is, nevertheless, widespread disagreement as to how cheap is sufficiently cheap. The spread among suppliers is considerable. There are other variables--on-net, off-net, market tiers and interconnection areas, etc.<br>
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At a minimum, we'd have to know the volumes involved to even begin to gain a sense of what kind of pricing the OP can hope to get. The legitimate wholesale pricing for 200k minutes would not strike someone with 5m minutes as "true wholesale". <br>
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On 06/18/2015 01:59 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:<br>
On 06/18/2015 01:47 PM, Colton Conor wrote:<br>
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What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate?<br>
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What is a "true" wholesale rate? Isn't that a bit like asking, "Which major stores offer Old Spice at a true retail rate?" (i.e. a retail rate I'd like to pay)<br>
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Seems straightforward enough of a term for me. Telephone numbers themselves don't have an actual cost, and in fact generate revenue for the LEC. Places that charge for example $10 a number are not wholesale rates. Places that cover a reasonable cost for LNP fees, cost recovery for maintenance/carrying cost/billing, a reasonable profit and expect you to know what you're doing. A true wholesale rate would be something you could make a reasonable profit with selling retail services to end users with.<br>
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The cost of a good sold by a wholesaler. The wholesaler will usually charge a price somewhat higher than he or she paid to the producer, and the retailer who purchases the goods from the wholesaler will increase the price again when they sell the good in their store.<br>
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