<html><head></head><body style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: initial;"> <div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Yeah, poking around metro Atlanta, which is quite pooled, there do seem to be quite a few A block assignments floating around.</div> <div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="display:initial"></div> <div style="display:none"></div> <div style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">--<br>Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC<br>303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300<br>Atlanta, GA 30346<br>United States<br><br>Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct)<br>Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/<br><br>Sent from my BlackBerry.</div> <table width="100%" style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px;"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, 'BB Alpha Sans', 'Slate Pro'; font-size: 10pt;"> <div><b>From: </b>James Milko</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, August 19, 2015 13:57</div><div><b>To: </b>Alex Balashov</div><div><b>Cc: </b>VoiceOps</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(186, 188, 209); border-top-width: 1pt; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div><br><div id="_originalContent" style=""><div dir="ltr">It could be anytime the *LEC still has the entire A block. As far as how common it is I can't really say. My cell phone and childhood phone number are both native routed.<div><br></div><div><div>Wireline:</div><div><a href="http://www.localcallingguide.com/lca_prefix.php?npa=732&nxx=363">http://www.localcallingguide.com/lca_prefix.php?npa=732&nxx=363</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Wireless:</div><div><a href="http://www.localcallingguide.com/lca_prefix.php?npa=201&nxx=320">http://www.localcallingguide.com/lca_prefix.php?npa=201&nxx=320</a><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#999999;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:bold;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">James Milko</span><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#999999;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#999999;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">Architect, Network Engineering<br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#888888;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">900 Main Campus Drive</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#888888;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">Raleigh, NC 27606</span><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#999999;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href="http://www.bandwidth.com/business/" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#1962cf;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline">Bandwidth</span></a><br></p><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#1962cf;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline"></span></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Alex Balashov <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" target="_blank">abalashov@evaristesys.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:initial"> <div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Aren't 95%+ rate centres pooled these days? If so, they'd still have LRNs, since LRN-guided routing is a requirement of pooling. So, who still has non-pooled 10K blocks? Is that common in metro, or largely a trait of rural LECs?</div><span class=""> <div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="display:initial"></div> <div></div> <div style="font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">--<br>Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC<br>303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300<br>Atlanta, GA 30346<br>United States<br><br>Tel: <a href="tel:%2B1-800-250-5920" value="+18002505920" target="_blank">+1-800-250-5920</a> (toll-free) / <a href="tel:%2B1-678-954-0671" value="+16789540671" target="_blank">+1-678-954-0671</a> (direct)<br>Web: <a href="http://www.evaristesys.com/" target="_blank">http://www.evaristesys.com/</a>, <a href="http://www.csrpswitch.com/" target="_blank">http://www.csrpswitch.com/</a><br><br>Sent from my BlackBerry.</div> </span><table width="100%" style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> <div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;font-family:Tahoma,'BB Alpha Sans','Slate Pro';font-size:10pt"> <div><b>From: </b>James Milko</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, August 19, 2015 13:32</div><div><b>To: </b>Alex Balashov</div><div><b>Cc: </b>VoiceOps</div><div><div class="h5"><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy</div></div></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div><div class="h5"><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(186,188,209);border-top-width:1pt;font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"></div><br><div><div dir="ltr">NPAC has a service type field that indicates wireless/wireline. That doesn't solve for native numbers though since they won't have LRN data since they don't have LRNs. I don't remember offhand if LERG has a wireless/wireline indication for a given [A]OCN or block.<div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#999999;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:bold;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">James Milko</span><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#999999;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#999999;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">Architect, Network Engineering<br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#888888;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">900 Main Campus Drive</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#888888;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">Raleigh, NC 27606</span><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#999999;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href="http://www.bandwidth.com/business/" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#1962cf;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline">Bandwidth</span></a><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#1962cf;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Alex Balashov <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" target="_blank">abalashov@evaristesys.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Indeed, you'd start from the NPAC, which would get you, for a given TN, an LRN. Then what?<br>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:52<br>
To: Carlos Alvarez<br>
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</span><div><div>If I were to offer this service or database access, I would start with my own local copy of NPAC that I'd update every X-minutes a day. This product is available now and has been for a while. This is the only sure-way, I know of, to have the most accurate data to work from.<br>
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Carlos Alvarez <<a href="mailto:caalvarez@gmail.com" target="_blank">caalvarez@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
I have a customer in market research who is legally required to manually dial calls to cell phones. Right now they are considering abandoning all of their auto/predictive dialer software and going to manual dial for everything, because the list-scrubbing services have been shown to be inaccurate. There are extreme penalties for auto-dialing a cell phone, and "best effort" is NOT a defense to this, at all. For example, Gallup just settle a claim for $12M.<br>
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So they need a totally accurate way to prevent a cell phone call from originating from their dialer. The only thing I can think of is some sort of LRN dip + LRN-to-carrier-type response. One of their people talked to Neustar, but didn't get great answers because he doesn't really understand telephony. Before I get in touch with Neustar, I thought I'd see if people here have some ideas.<br>
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If you provide a commercial product for this, please feel free to tell me so on or off list, the customer is willing to pay for the service and we're open to all options. I don't have a budget number yet but manual dialing is going to cost them quite a bit for some types of studies.<br>
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