<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I'll just be happy when we come up with a safe way to handle T.38 and G.722 interop. Forward motion is being made on that too, thankfully. (I hate to keep talking inteliquent up, I don't work for them and don't get money from them, but they've been very forward looking any time I've worked with them. They support G.722 transport between enabled carriers, etc. If they transcoded to wireless wideband codecs i'd probably marry them.).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Paul</div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 5, 2015, at 15:05, Erik Flournoy <<a href="mailto:erik@eespro.com" class="">erik@eespro.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">TDM only stands for faxing and paying FCC fees. If a packet transverses your entire network as a packet then it's never a toll charge. It's a packet. This is why they are pressing hard to tax the internet more because the voice money games are slowing decreasing. It's a data war now.<div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Paul Timmins <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:paul@timmins.net" target="_blank" class="">paul@timmins.net</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">T-Mobile is entirely switching away from TDM connectivity and using IQ for their entire TDM interop from what a little birdie told me. That alone seemed like a pretty big paradigm shift.<br class="">
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> On Dec 5, 2015, at 15:00, Alex Balashov <<a href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" class="">abalashov@evaristesys.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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> On 12/05/2015 04:55 PM, Paul Timmins wrote:<br class="">
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>> I'd say probably 1/3 to 1/2 of our traffic ends up never touching<br class="">
>> RBOC equipment.<br class="">
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> Oh, okay, so there's been some progress in this area since I last looked around.<br class="">
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> I suppose it's moderated by the degree to which the Tier 1 CLEC oligopoly that feeds the VoIP supply chain is willing to participate. And it sounds like their willingness may be higher than I imagined.<br class="">
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