<html><head></head><body style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: initial;"> <div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Management and licencing are rather ancillary to any discussion of NFs.</div> <div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="display:initial"></div> <div style="display:none"></div> <div style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">--<br>Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC<br>1447 Peachtree Street NE, Suite 700<br>Atlanta, GA 30309<br>United States<br><br>Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct)<br>Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/<br><br>Sent from my BlackBerry.</div> <table width="100%" style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px;"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, 'BB Alpha Sans', 'Slate Pro'; font-size: 10pt;"> <div><b>From: </b>Pete Eisengrein</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, April 7, 2016 08:26</div><div><b>To: </b>Alex Balashov</div><div><b>Cc: </b>voiceops@voiceops.org</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [VoiceOps] Virtualized SBC</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(186, 188, 209); border-top-width: 1pt; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div><br><div id="_originalContent" style=""><div dir="ltr">If it requires a bunch of configuration, I agree it is just V. But if there's an orchestration layer that informs all other systems of its presence, including management and licensing, without having to configure all that, then it is NFV. Now, whether the aforementioned vendors are actually doing this, that can be debated (and I'd be curious to hear people's options on it). They may just be doing V with a long-term vision of NFV, I don't know.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Alex Balashov <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" target="_blank">abalashov@evaristesys.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:initial"> <div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">No. That's not NFV. That's just... V. </div> <div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="display:initial"></div> <div></div> <div style="font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="">--<br>Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC<br>1447 Peachtree Street NE, Suite 700<br>Atlanta, GA 30309<br>United States<br><br>Tel: <a href="tel:%2B1-800-250-5920" value="+18002505920" target="_blank">+1-800-250-5920</a> (toll-free) / <a href="tel:%2B1-678-954-0671" value="+16789540671" target="_blank">+1-678-954-0671</a> (direct)<br>Web: <a href="http://www.evaristesys.com/" target="_blank">http://www.evaristesys.com/</a>, <a href="http://www.csrpswitch.com/" target="_blank">http://www.csrpswitch.com/</a><br><br></span>Sent from my BlackBerry.</div> <table width="100%" style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> <div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;font-family:Tahoma,'BB Alpha Sans','Slate Pro';font-size:10pt"> <div><b>From: </b>Pete Eisengrein</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, April 7, 2016 07:26</div><div><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a></div><span class=""><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [VoiceOps] Virtualized SBC</div></span></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(186,188,209);border-top-width:1pt;font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"></div><br><div><div class="h5"><div><div dir="ltr"><p>> my point was that they, of all </p>
<p>> things, are a poor standard </p>
<p>> bearer for the NFV marketing-</p>
<p>> gasm.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>With centralized licensing and the ability to scale
resources when and where you need them, I would argue they are the perfect
device for the NFV marketing-gasm (LOL).</p></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Alex Balashov <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" target="_blank">abalashov@evaristesys.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 04/06/2016 10:54 PM, Ryan Delgrosso wrote:<br>
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an SBC ... is a demarcation and control point between network<span><br>
segments where you can inject interworking and business logic.<br>
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Absolutely, at >= Layer 5.<br>
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If it's news to anyone here that you can virtualise applications, they've got some catching up to do.<br>
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Anyway, my argument wasn't that SBCs serve no valid purposes. You've done a good job of outlining them. Instead, my point was that they, of all things, are a poor standard bearer for the NFV marketing-gasm.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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-- Alex</font></span><span><br>
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