<div dir="ltr">I know a lot of (consumers) were getting out of paying magikjack port out fees because they are not legal at that level. I think for us its pretty deregulated</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Richard Breton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rbreton@ucforge.com" target="_blank">rbreton@ucforge.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">id like to know that too. I think for carriers it is for mobile consumers its not</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Aryn Nakaoka <a href="tel:808.356.2901" value="+18083562901" target="_blank">808.356.2901</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anakaoka@trinet-hi.com" target="_blank">anakaoka@trinet-hi.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Is a port out charge legal? </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br><br><br><br>Aryn H. K. Nakaoka<br><a href="mailto:anakaoka@trinet-hi.com" target="_blank">anakaoka@trinet-hi.com</a><br><br>Direct: <a href="tel:808.356.2901" value="+18083562901" target="_blank">808.356.2901</a><br>Fax : <a href="tel:808.356.2919" value="+18083562919" target="_blank">808.356.2919</a><br><br>Tri-net Solutions<br>518 Holokahana Lane Suite #200<br>Honolulu, HI 96817<br><a href="http://www.trinet-hi.com" target="_blank">http://www.trinet-hi.com</a><br><br><a href="https://twitter.com/AlohaTone" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/AlohaTone</a><br><br>Aloha Tone PBX  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96YWPY9wCeU" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch<wbr>?v=96YWPY9wCeU</a><br><br>Aloha Tone (HA) High Availability <a href="http://youtu.be/rJsr4k0RBH8" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/rJsr4k0RBH8</a><br><br>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:  The information contained in this email and any attachments may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure.  Any disclosure, distribution or copying of this email or any attachments by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to the message and deleting this email and any attachments from your system. Thank you for your cooperation.<br><br><br><br><br><br></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 6:26 AM, Ivan Kovacevic <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ivan.kovacevic@startelecom.ca" target="_blank">ivan.kovacevic@startelecom.ca</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div lang="EN-CA" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_29418885327875032_m_-3481511849755797424_m_2961821193449608625__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Two answers:</span></a></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span></p><p><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">          </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Should be $0</span></span></p><p><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">          </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">But really, comes to the total cost of using the carrier. The race to the bottom has forced carriers to put a nominal price on everything that gets touched. Ultimately it’s the total cost of their services (MRCs, NRCs, usage, etc) that make or break your business case (unless you really want to go with the carrier and then the business case does not matter). </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">And a suggestion: I would ask them to put a per-request maximum, since these types of things mostly get handled on per request basis. We have done this for port-ins… You pay X, unless we do a whole batch with same customer info, then it’s up to $y per request. So if you ever leave them, it won’t break the bank… and one-offs probably won’t break the bank either. </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">My 2c. </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Best Regards,</span></span><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></span><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Ivan Kovacevic</span></span><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Vice President, Client Services</span></span><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Star Telecom | </span></span><a href="http://www.startelecom.ca/" target="_blank"><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:blue">www.startelecom.ca</span></span><span></span></a><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> | SIP Based Services for Contact Centers | </span></span><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/company/star-telecom-www.startelecom.ca-?trk=top_nav_home" target="_blank"><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:blue">LinkedIn</span></span><span></span></a><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span></p><span></span><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> VoiceOps [mailto:<a href="mailto:voiceops-bounces@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops-bounces@voice<wbr>ops.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Breton<br><b>Sent:</b> August 24, 2016 12:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [VoiceOps] what is a fair port out fee?</span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Im trying to negotiate a new orig carrier onboard and they have a 10 dollar port out fee.</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">This would be a pretty staggering figure if I had to port out my TN's due to quality or similar issues.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I'm not naming names, thats not cool but at the same time before I sign anything it looks like I'm seeing a lot of 1 - 3 dollar port out fees on websites</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I really want to get this number pushed down but don't want to be unreasonable, I just can't sign something where a port out fee is that high.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Whats the norm out there? </p></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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