<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24730"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24733">NIST used to have an impairment app for injecting latency etc. Been many years since I've used it.</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24575"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24660" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24659"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24658"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24657"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24656"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Matthew M. Gamble <mgamble@thoughtfire.ca><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez@gmail.com>; "voiceops@voiceops.org" <voiceops@voiceops.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:27 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [VoiceOps] Maximum latency<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24661"><br><div id="yiv3088174526"><style>#yiv3088174526 #yiv3088174526 --
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<div class="yiv3088174526MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24663"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24662">I use a FreeBSD box as a bump-in-the-wire to test and introduce additional latency, packet loss, and jitter using ipfw – this is a pretty good overview of how to do it: http://fjoanis.github.io/2013/08/31/Network_Simulation_FreeBSD_DummyNet/</span></div>
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 2:13 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To: </b>"voiceops@voiceops.org" <voiceops@voiceops.org><br clear="none">
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [VoiceOps] Maximum latency</span></div>
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<div class="yiv3088174526MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24685">Those are some excellent points, Ivan. They do indeed transfer calls regularly between agents in various US cities, so I assume the foreign ones will also. I'll have to ask.
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<div class="yiv3088174526MsoNormal">The US agents are on MPLS to us, 2-3ms at most.</div>
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<div class="yiv3088174526MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24687">Also, my satellite phone seems to have around 700ms delay, which is quite challenging. I should try synthesizing 250ms for them and let them try it. Not sure how, but assume there's some open source out there to do it.</div>
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<div class="yiv3088174526yqt1347893270" id="yiv3088174526yqt89644"><div class="yiv3088174526MsoNormal">On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Ivan Kovacevic <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ivan.kovacevic@startelecom.ca" target="_blank" href="mailto:ivan.kovacevic@startelecom.ca">ivan.kovacevic@startelecom.ca</a>> wrote:</div></div>
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<div class="yiv3088174526yqt1347893270" id="yiv3088174526yqt07885"><div class="yiv3088174526MsoNormal" style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" name="m_5000554820658676621__MailEndCompose" href=""><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;"> </span></a><span lang="EN-CA"></span></div>
<div class="yiv3088174526MsoNormal" style=""><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;">The reality is that you can’t get away from it. A private circuit may cut it by 10% and provide more stable Jitter…
but that’s it. So your client and 500,000 other agents in the Philippines and India are in the same boat.
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<div class="yiv3088174526MsoNormal" style="" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24690"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24689">Where latency gets really nasty and there is some scope to optimize is on call transfers/conferences. Make sure there
is never hairpinning through the off-shore call centre. Or that call transfers or conferences have to double up on the path. It will depend on where the media gateways for the solution reside and whether you have any optimization when multiple call legs are
made through your service. </span><span lang="EN-CA"></span></div>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Carlos Alvarez<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> March 22, 2017 1:59 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org">voiceops@voiceops.org</a><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> [VoiceOps] Maximum latency</span><span lang="EN-CA"></span></div>
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<div class="yiv3088174526yqt1347893270" id="yiv3088174526yqt36666"><div class="yiv3088174526MsoNormal" style="" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24709"><span lang="EN-CA" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490201074690_24708">One of our larger customers is about to launch a new call center in Malaysia. The connection there is fast, the trace looks surprisingly clean and short, but
latency is consistently at 239-245ms. We've never knowingly had a connection over 130ms. Does anyone have experiences, good or bad, with latency approaching a quarter second? The jitter level seems fine, so I believe they'll just have a delay but decent
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