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<p>So as a reasonably sized metaswitch shop (100k seats) i can say
their platform is pretty bulletproof if deployed and managed
properly and their support is an absolute pleasure to work with.
Just keep in mind, metaswitch REALLY wants to sell a complete
turnkey product, and the farther you deviate from their ecosystem
the less polished it becomes out of the box. <br>
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<p>Where it falls short is in the agility side. Its roots are in the
massive number of small and medium clecs it powers so thats where
so much of their development time seems to go. They are definitely
behind the curve on enabling some of the richer business services
or exposing api's that permit easy and rapid development of new
services. The good news is the platform is fairly easy to
integrate with open source stacks for adding richer call flows but
now you are off on your own, or paying consultants. <br>
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<p>I have no personal experience with 2600hz BUT i have done a
pretty reasonable amount of work building service providers built
on raw opensource tech (freeswitch/opensips etc) and given whats
at the core of 2600hz it looks promising, but could only be as
successful as you engineer your deployment. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/1/2017 8:25 PM, Colton Conor
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Aviv,
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<div>Great write up, and I agree with most all of your thoughts.
My question to you is what do you recommend for those "<span
style="font-size:12.8px">whitelabel providers powered by </span><span
class="gmail-il"
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-size:12.8px">Broadsoft"?
What platform do you recommend they go to now?</span></div>
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style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-size:12.8px"><br>
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<div><span class="gmail-il"
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-size:12.8px">You
mentioned </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">Netsapiens
and Metaswitch. I have a bad feeling in my mouth
about Netsapiens due the multiple outages that SkySwitch has
and continues to have on their Netsapiens platform.
Metaswitch seems like a nice solution, but not widely talked
about on the forums. What else is out there at this point?</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:55 PM, Aviv
Shaham <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aviv@ironsip.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">aviv@ironsip.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Some
thoughts:<br>
<br>
- This move is great news for any mid-market+ ITSP with a
proprietary tech stack and royalty-free softswitch, such as
Jive. Any of the large ISPs contemplating moving away from
Broadsoft may shop around and scoop these up.<br>
<br>
- This is very bad news for non-ISP providers on the
Broadsoft platform who have built their entire business
around Broadsoft licensing and have very little VoIP IP of
their own, like Nextiva. Those ITSPs just became Cisco
resellers overnight competing for the same customers against
Cisco's inside sales force and existing mid-size and
enterprise footprint and partnerships.<br>
<br>
Expect continued consolidation as those ITSPs head for the
exits, and fast. Also does not bode well for whitelabel
providers powered by Broadsoft such as BluIP and the new
Coredial offering.<br>
<br>
- As for device makers, this is particularly bad for Polycom
who invested heavily in Broadsoft-only integrations while
ignoring smaller softswitch makers for years. 2-3 years from
now Broadsoft resellers will be selling primarily Cisco
endpoints. Polycom saw this coming and came out with their
device lease program a couple months back. Cisco will
practically be giving away free SIP devices to accelerate
growth. In other news, Polycom is being replaced by Yealink.<br>
<br>
- Pretty good news for Netsapiens and Metaswitch, although
just like with Broadsoft and BroadCloud, Netsapiens competes
directly with its resellers by way of its unique and close
relationship with Skyswitch.<br>
<br>
- CPaaS will naturally continue to grow. Broadsoft will need
some serious CPaaS chops, and Cisco-owned Tropo is not
enough to compete in this market. They will make some moves,
maybe even pick up Plivo. Might as well aim higher and get
Twilio before Amazon does, or at least before Amazon comes
out with their business Hosted PBX offering with built-in
CPaaS deep integrations.<br>
<br>
- They really did blindside their audience at Connections
this year. One has to wonder why that was necessary.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Aviv<br>
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On Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 04:10 PM, Peter Rad. wrote:<br>
> This transaction says that being a stand-alone
telco vendor doesn't work<br>
> any longer. Taqua, Tekelec and Acme Packet for
examples. ALU isn't<br>
> exactly setting the world on fire. Consolidation
means fewer customers.<br>
><br>
> And despite the analyst forecasts, UCaaS is not
rocking the world. It is<br>
> all going toward CPaaS.<br>
> <a
href="http://channelplaybook.com/telecom/the-ucaas-numbers-dont-add-up/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://channelplaybook.com/<wbr>telecom/the-ucaas-numbers-<wbr>dont-add-up/</a><br>
><br>
> Sonus and Genband have been in talks for months.<br>
> No idea what Metsaswitch will do.<br>
><br>
> I find it funny they wait until their customers fly
out to Phoenix to<br>
> get kicked in the nuts. If they had leaked it 2
weeks ago, some of the<br>
> attendees could have saved the airfare.<br>
><br>
> Also, BSFT needed a new C-Suite like 3 years ago.
Slack kicked their<br>
> ass and they took forever to try to catch up. Never
even integrated with<br>
> Slack!<br>
><br>
> They compete directly with their customers
(BroadCloud). It's not a<br>
> good formula for the 400 clients who are not the
Duopoly.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Peter Radizeski<br>
> RAD-INFO INC<br>
> <a href="tel:813.963.5884" value="+18139635884"
moz-do-not-send="true">813.963.5884</a><br>
> <a href="http://rad-info.net" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://rad-info.net</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 10/23/2017 2:57 PM, Brian Murray wrote:<br>
> > Very shocking news to say the least. A strange
vibe here at the 2017 Broadsoft Connections for sure.
Very curious to see how this pans out. I do agree that
this would bode well for other players in this space,
but honestly for how long. Everyone is ultimately for
sale.<br>
> ><br>
> > Brian J. Murray<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: VoiceOps [mailto:<a
href="mailto:voiceops-bounces@voiceops.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">voiceops-bounces@<wbr>voiceops.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Ryan Delgrosso<br>
> > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 2:53 PM<br>
> > To: <a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">voiceops@voiceops.org</a><br>
> > Subject: [VoiceOps] Cisco acquires Broadsoft
for approx the GDP of Belize<br>
> ><br>
> > <a
href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-broadsoft-m-a-cisco-systems/cisco-buys-broadsoft-for-1-71-bln-in-software-push-idUSKBN1CS02Q"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.reuters.com/<wbr>article/us-broadsoft-m-a-<wbr>cisco-systems/cisco-buys-<wbr>broadsoft-for-1-71-bln-in-<wbr>software-push-idUSKBN1CS02Q</a><br>
> ><br>
> > I cant say im surprised but in this day and
age i suspect there will be far less technical synergies
than anyone is hoping for.<br>
> ><br>
> > I suspect this bodes best for Metaswitch and
netsapiens as some SP's will undoubtedly reconsider BSFT
as a platform strategy.<br>
> ><br>
> > Also directly from the article:<br>
> ><br>
> > "BroadSoft provides software and
services that enable mobile, fixed-line and cable
service providers to offer so-called unified
communications over their internet protocol networks."
... ouch<br>
> ><br>
> > Any other thoughts?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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