<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Based on how things work in Canada, but should not be much different for you. Two common scenarios:</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Often class 4/5 switches or STPs are configured to cache LRN records either for X number of minutes or hours. Thus reducing number of dips it has to make. I think of it like dns caching. When particular record expires it would dip again. X would differ by carrier, so you cant tell for sure and cant fix that other than wait</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sometimes a number is not removed from a local switch it used to be programmed in. So even after LRN is changed, other ppl in that same switch will hit the old / disconnected line. But all other callers will reach you no problem. This is because older switches do local subscriber lookup before doing LRN dip... so if there is a bogus local record it will win over anything LRN related. This issue would be isolated to single switch / single carrier and wont resolve by itself until someone removes the number programming.</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jan 23, 2020, at 12:45, Glen Gerhard <<a href="mailto:glen@cognexus.net">glen@cognexus.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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to date porting information, regardless of how you initiate the
port.<br>
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Apparently the some of the ones you tested on use a nightly
update, so as Matt said, you will just have to wait.<br>
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Isn't this a case of the "sloppy" providers using a LNP cache
system on their switch and you simply have to wait for it to
expire out for each number? Once it expires they will redip for
the proper LRN and calls flow normally...</div>
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I guess it happens to me but I simply ignore it.. it will fix
itself. I normally do ports in the evening and that way we have
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Or did I misread the question and gave a terrible answer?</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 23, 2020 11:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> voiceops <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org"><voiceops@voiceops.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [VoiceOps] Post-Port Activation Delay</font>
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<div class="PlainText">I would like to preface this email by
saying that I know that iconnectiv is managing ports now,
but we just have the old Neustar portal working as the
front end because I haven't had time to learn how all this
stuff works so that I can properly train our employees on
how to use the new portal.<br>
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Undo business. Our people that manage the porting
currently go into the neustar portal and activate a port.
At that time, some carriers immediately start using bus.
However, some carriers will still send traffic to the
losing provider for some amount of time after that.
Sometimes that is okay, sometimes it is not. I assume that
there is not a darn thing that I can do about how quickly
someone else decides to look up the number to see that it
has been ported.<br>
<br>
However, can someone explain to me how common this is and
what providers arnone for being sloppy? For example, last
night we did a port at 9 pm. A test call that we did to a
forwarding number that would have bounced through AT&T
ILEC went through fine every time. Calls that would have
gone through a variety of cell providers was extremely Hit
or Miss, Even from the same operator.<br>
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I apologize for any misused words. I was using voice to
text and editing that on my phone can be difficult.<br>
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Mike Hammett<br>
Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>
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