<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">True, but it doesn't matter. Since there are bad actors that we are trying to prevent, then all spoofed numbers must be handled correctly. It can no longer be ok to just look the other way and let them all through. Validated/authorized spoofed numbers should be fine and those that are not have work to do and all that should be left are bad actors being blocked. Of course, I understand we are not quite there yet, but this is how it *should* be.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><table width="300" border="0" style="font-size:12.8px"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family:"Courier New",Courier,monospace;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;padding-top:15px;padding-bottom:10px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-width:1px;border-top-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><strong><font color="#000000">Brandon Svec</font></strong><font color="#000000"> </font><font color="#000000"><br></font><b><a href="tel:15106862204" value="+15106862204" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">15106862204</a> voice|sms<br></b><span style="color:rgb(29,2,153)"><strong><a href="https://teamonesolutions.com/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">teamonesolutions.com</a></strong> </span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 9:00 AM Brooks Bridges <<a href="mailto:brooks@firestormnetworks.net">brooks@firestormnetworks.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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I would posit that outpulsing a specific ANI with authorization of,
and at the request of, the number's owner doesn't really fall under
the colloquial understanding of "spoofing". I think that term is
typically used to imply malice or deceit.<br>
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valid reasons to "spoof" numbers. We have two customers who
need to do it all the time, and it's legal, as well as
demanded by their customers.
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right away and it’ll cost for the robocallers.<br>
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Calvin Ellison <<a href="mailto:calvin.ellison@voxox.com" target="_blank">calvin.ellison@voxox.com</a>>
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If a customer spoofs an ANI that they do not
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<div>Is there any legal device that actually
supports this practice? I'm looking for a
specific statute, FCC rule, precedent in a
judicial ruling, or the like.</div>
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<div>The FCC has ruled that the SIP 608 response
code is to be used for signaling when a call is
rejected. I doubt the FCC or FTC has ruled that
terminating carriers are permitted to cause loss
of trust and revenue between upstream
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