<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Agree. Intent to deceive or misrepresent is at the heart of spoofing.<br><br><div dir="ltr">—<div>Sent from mobile, with due apologies for brevity and errors.</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 16, 2021, at 12:00 PM, Brooks Bridges <brooks@firestormnetworks.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
  
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    I would posit that outpulsing a specific ANI with authorization of,
    and at the request of, the number's owner doesn't really fall under
    the colloquial understanding of "spoofing".  I think that term is
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        <div dir="ltr">But the ridiculous side of this is that there are
          valid reasons to "spoof" numbers.  We have two customers who
          need to do it all the time, and it's legal, as well as
          demanded by their customers.
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            AM <<a href="mailto:paul@timmins.net" moz-do-not-send="true">paul@timmins.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="auto">Legal or not it’s genius. Humans will notice
              right away and it’ll cost for the robocallers.<br>
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                <blockquote type="cite">On Feb 16, 2021, at 11:23 AM,
                  Calvin Ellison <<a href="mailto:calvin.ellison@voxox.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">calvin.ellison@voxox.com</a>>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Today we received a notice from one of
                    our underlying carriers that included the following
                    statement:
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                            If a customer spoofs an ANI that they do not
                            own, the clec's can forward to call to a
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                      <div>Is there any legal device that actually
                        supports this practice? I'm looking for a
                        specific statute, FCC rule, precedent in a
                        judicial ruling, or the like.</div>
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                      <div>The FCC has ruled that the SIP 608 response
                        code is to be used for signaling when a call is
                        rejected. I doubt the FCC or FTC has ruled that
                        terminating carriers are permitted to cause loss
                        of trust and revenue between upstream
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