<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Agree. Intent to deceive or misrepresent is at the heart of spoofing.<br><br><div dir="ltr">—<div>Sent from mobile, with due apologies for brevity and errors.</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 16, 2021, at 12:00 PM, Brooks Bridges <brooks@firestormnetworks.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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I would posit that outpulsing a specific ANI with authorization of,
and at the request of, the number's owner doesn't really fall under
the colloquial understanding of "spoofing". I think that term is
typically used to imply malice or deceit.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">But the ridiculous side of this is that there are
valid reasons to "spoof" numbers. We have two customers who
need to do it all the time, and it's legal, as well as
demanded by their customers.
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<div dir="auto">Legal or not it’s genius. Humans will notice
right away and it’ll cost for the robocallers.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Today we received a notice from one of
our underlying carriers that included the following
statement:
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If a customer spoofs an ANI that they do not
own, the clec's can forward to call to a
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<div>Is there any legal device that actually
supports this practice? I'm looking for a
specific statute, FCC rule, precedent in a
judicial ruling, or the like.</div>
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<div>The FCC has ruled that the SIP 608 response
code is to be used for signaling when a call is
rejected. I doubt the FCC or FTC has ruled that
terminating carriers are permitted to cause loss
of trust and revenue between upstream
intermediate and originating carriers.</div>
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