<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">If you dump it on a local tandem untranslated, you're being billed the dip cost and you're entitled to capture that as well as whatever your tariffed rates for the traffic are. (some carriers will bill the dip directly to the terminating ixc if you send them the traffic, so make sure you check so you're not double dipping)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you dip it yourself, and send it to a tandem to terminate on the IXC, then you can bill both elements as well.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It's not a lot these days, but it's something.<br class=""><div class=""><br class="">
<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 3, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Mike Hammett <<a href="mailto:voiceops@ics-il.net" class="">voiceops@ics-il.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class="">I did mean for my outbound 8YY calls.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It was my understanding that I didn't have a cost for that traffic, just that I was forfeiting some amount of revenue.<br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><span name="x" class=""></span><br class=""><br class="">-----<br class="">Mike Hammett<br class="">Intelligent Computing Solutions<br class=""><a href="http://www.ics-il.com/" class="">http://www.ics-il.com</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Midwest Internet Exchange<br class=""><a href="http://www.midwest-ix.com/" class="">http://www.midwest-ix.com</a><br class=""><br class=""><span name="x" class=""></span><br class=""></div><br class=""><hr id="zwchr" class=""><div style="font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><b class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Mary Lou Carey" <<a href="mailto:marylou@backuptelecom.com" class="">marylou@backuptelecom.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Paul Timmins" <<a href="mailto:ptimmins@clearrate.com" class="">ptimmins@clearrate.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Mike Hammett" <<a href="mailto:voiceops@ics-il.net" class="">voiceops@ics-il.net</a>>, "voiceops" <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" class="">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Friday, July 2, 2021 12:45:24 PM<br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [VoiceOps] 8YY Traffic<br class=""><br class="">I was just commenting on what the trunks would accept......not whether<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">its cost or time effective to save the 8YY dips so you point it to a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">cheaper route.<br class=""><br class="">MARY LOU CAREY<br class="">BackUP Telecom Consulting<br class="">Office: 615-791-9969<br class="">Cell: 615-796-1111<br class=""><br class="">On 2021-07-01 04:44 PM, Paul Timmins wrote:<br class="">> How would you go about determining if a toll free number is intralata<br class="">> or not?<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> -------------------------<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> From: VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops-bounces@voiceops.org" class="">voiceops-bounces@voiceops.org</a>> on behalf of Mary Lou<br class="">> Carey <<a href="mailto:marylou@backuptelecom.com" class="">marylou@backuptelecom.com</a>><br class="">> Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 5:31 PM<br class="">> To: Mike Hammett<br class="">> Cc: voiceops<br class="">> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 8YY Traffic<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> You should be able to route 8YY traffic over both but only IntraLATA<br class="">> 8YY<br class="">> traffic over the Local IntraLATA trunk group.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> MARY LOU CAREY<br class="">> BackUP Telecom Consulting<br class="">> Office: 615-791-9969<br class="">> Cell: 615-796-1111<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> On 2021-07-01 10:20 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:<br class="">>> Is there any reason I can't throw all 8YY traffic at my IXC tandem?<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> In looking in my Metaswitch config, it appears that only 8YY traffic<br class="">>> destined for my LATA (which doesn't really make any sense) goes to<br class="">> the<br class="">>> tandem. 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