<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Yeah, that’s right. The amount of stuff tied to the legacy companies’ identifiers, OCNs, namesakes and so forth is stupefying. It is completely impractical to change at all.<br><br><div dir="ltr">—<div>Sent from mobile, with due apologies for brevity and errors.</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 23, 2021, at 6:52 PM, Jeff Shultz <jeffshultz@sctcweb.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>I'd bet that taxes and business licences enter into it. For some of those companies there is a lot of paper that goes back a lot of years in various federal, state, and local file cabinets. It's sometimes easier to simply use the old names that already have a legal existence in an area than try to change the names on all of that paperwork and maps.... </div><div><br></div><div>That would be my guess. That and maybe intellectual property, keeping trademarks and names alive so that someone else can't pop up using it. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 3:32 PM Peter Beckman <<a href="mailto:beckman@angryox.com">beckman@angryox.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I'm curious why companies like T-Mobile and Inteliquent/Onvoy/Voyant<br>
continue to retain company names and corporate entities long after their<br>
brands have been retired, acquired, and generally shell entities holding<br>
phone numbers.<br>
<br>
Some examples:<br>
<br>
T-Mobile -> Omnipoint, Aerial Communications, Suncom, Powertel,<br>
Sprint, Eliska Wireless Ventures Subsidiary I<br>
Sprint -> O1 Communications, US Telepacific<br>
AT&T -> New Cingular Wireless, Southwestern Bell, Pacific Bell,<br>
Bell South, Southern Bell, Ameritech<br>
Verizon -> Cellco Partnership, Bell Atlantic Nynex Mobile<br>
Inteliquent -> Radiant IQ, Onvoy, Voyant, Broadvox, Layered, Neutral<br>
Tandem<br>
CenturyLink -> United Telephone, Qwest<br>
Spectrum -> Charter Fiberlink<br>
<br>
So many of these brands are dead and acquired, yet these companies live on<br>
and own phone numbers. Cingular died in 2006. Radiant IQ acquired in 2015.<br>
Bell Atlantic went away in 2000 with Verizon acquiring Bell Atlantic and<br>
GTE.<br>
<br>
Why? What benefit does this provide the owning/operating companies? Legal<br>
insulation?<br>
<br>
Beckman<br>
<br>
PS -- This all started when I saw Inteliquent request VoIP Numbering for<br>
Radiant IQ in June 2020, a company they acquired in 2015, and generally<br>
does not exist in any meaningful way to customers or consumers, residential<br>
or business. This industry in the US is weird.<br>
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