<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>That sounds terrible.<br><br><div><span name="x"></span><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br>Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>http://www.ics-il.com<br><br><br><br>Midwest Internet Exchange<br>http://www.midwest-ix.com<br><br><span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Mike Johnston" <mjohnston@wiktel.com><br><b>To: </b>"VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 23, 2021 5:48:31 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [VoiceOps] Vendor Pros\Cons<br><br>On 2021-12-23 08:08, Shawn L wrote:<br>> The C15/20 series is still pretty much all CLI, despite the fact that <br>> they've been saying they've had a GUI for years (awful, awful <br>> java-based thing).<br><br>The C15's CLI is not very intuitive, being a living relic of its DMS <br>heritage. There are different overlays you need to load to get into <br>different administration areas of the C15. I believe this comes from <br>the era when RAM was limited and only one overlay/program could be <br>loaded from the tape drive at a time. Much of that same paradigm still <br>exists in the C15's current CLI. The CLI is accessible via serial and <br>telnet, with no sign of ever being upgraded to use SSH. There is no "up <br>arrow" support. That is, you can not press the up arrow key to get the <br>previous command. There is also no left/right arrow key support to <br>assist you in modifying your current command. Depending on your <br>terminal settings, you may not have backspace support either. There is <br>no API, and it is very tedious to automate with expect scripts via the <br>CLI. Almost everything is in 3 or 4 character long keywords. You will <br>eventually memorize many of them (CNAM, CND, CNB, CFW, etc), but you <br>will forever be looking up many of these abbreviations in the manual <br>(what is the difference between TR TTYP TERL, TRAL, TRAO, and TRAP? How <br>do these interact with the THGP or STN PICL setting?).<br><br>As for the GUI, as Shawn said, it is Java based. As such, just assume <br>it doesn't exist.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>VoiceOps mailing list<br>VoiceOps@voiceops.org<br>https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops<br></div><br></div></body></html>