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    why not move that SIP trunk elsewhere? Like Intelepeer or Vonage or
    RNG or Sangoma or anyone who would handle the E911?<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/4/2022 7:07 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn
      via VoiceOps wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAEE+rGoy5YrOqLZXBMRjhpM5OtmOYjEdLWugN7RTu66mWRnJ8Q@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="ltr">When I handed Comcast a list of phone numbers years
        ago, they said there would be no problem porting them over or
        using them.
        <div>That was it.</div>
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        <div>Then after the service was installed, someone mentioned "a
          few of the numbers will be RCF'd", but we wouldn't have a
          problem using them.</div>
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        <div>Then 3 months into using the service (after our
          cancellation period expired and we were locked-in), we
          suddenly started having problems with the RCF'd numbers being
          re-written.</div>
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        <div>No less than 30 calls to Comcast over the years has
          resulted in widely different responses including:<br>
          * Ok, we just changed an option in the AdTran to allow you to
          specify your own caller ID, everything should work now (it
          doesn't)</div>
        <div>* Give us a list of phone numbers and associated addresses
          so we can update our e911 information (they respond with
          "done!", not "we can't set e911 for phone number xxx-yyy-zzzz)</div>
        <div>* I'm going to escalate this (followed by nothing happening
          and the case gets magically closed)</div>
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        <div>After talking with Comcast this morning, I had a rep send
          me what they had listed for addresses associated with phone
          numbers...and unsurprisingly found that they had reset
          everything to the address of our SIP trunk service.  None of
          our offices have valid 911 contact info.</div>
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        <div>They're allegedly in the middle of updating the list again,
          but I'm not holding my breath.</div>
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        <div>It's Comcast's job to provide phone service and 911 routing
          for this client.  They shouldn't be re-writing anything.  They
          weren't in the beginning, but I'm guessing it has to do with
          STIR/SHAKEN.  I'm vaguely familiar with it, but I'm not a
          telco or a phone service provider.  Just someone they hired to
          clean up their FreePBX phone mess. ;)</div>
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        <div>-A</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 3:01 PM
          Paul Timmins <<a href="mailto:paul@timmins.net"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">paul@timmins.net</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div>I'm going to be the unpopular one here, and point out
              that Comcast is not really responsible to route 911 calls
              for you when you use numbers that they don't provide. For
              the cost of an hour of an attorney's time, you could just
              set up trunking to basically anyone else to handle those
              offnet/off circuit numbers and the 911 routing for those
              numbers.<br>
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            <div>On 1/4/22 1:30 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via VoiceOps
              wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">One of my clients has a large SIP trunk
                with Comcast based out of Washington State.
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                <div>They have all their offices across Oregon and
                  Washington hooked into a FreePBX phone server that is
                  attached to the Comcast SIP trunk.</div>
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                <div>911 calls *constantly* get misrouted to the local
                  PSAP where the SIP trunk lives.</div>
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                <div>I must have called Comcast 30 times over the last
                  few years to try and get this addressed, but Comcast
                  flat-out refuses to fix the issue.</div>
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                <div>The short answer is that Comcast refuses to fix
                  it.  In some (but not all) cases, our phone numbers
                  are RCF'd numbers, so they don't actually exist on the
                  trunk...and Comcast forcibly re-writes them to our
                  'main' number...and then routes the 911 call
                  incorrectly.  In other cases, we have provided Comcast
                  with the e911 information, they say it's updated, and
                  then we find out months later (when an office dials
                  911 during an emergency) that it's still not correct.</div>
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                <div>Not only does this affect 911 calls, but also
                  customers who get the re-written caller ID and have no
                  idea which office called them.</div>
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                <div>The "easy" solution is to ditch Comcast and move to
                  a provider that doesn't play the RCF and
                  caller-ID-rewrite games.  Unfortunately my client is
                  locked into their Comcast contract for another ~18
                  months.  Early termination would incur a ~$35,000
                  bill.</div>
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                <div>Is there a list of PSAP numbers somewhere so I can
                  set up an internal redirect to the PSAP 10-digit
                  number?  I know those 10-digit numbers are guarded
                  like Fort Knox, so I'm betting this option isn't very
                  realistic.</div>
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                <div>Maybe a separate service provider that can just
                  handle 911 calls without "owning" my client's phone
                  numbers?<br>
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                <div>Any other thoughts on how I can route around
                  Comcast brain damage?<br>
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                <div>Thanks,</div>
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                <div>-A</div>
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