<div dir="ltr">From my first message:<div>> Early termination would incur a ~$35,000 bill.</div><div><br></div><div>They're paying just over $2k/mo for service and have ~18 months left on the contract. Apparently Comcast gives a slight discount from the normal monthly cost if you terminate early, but it's not much.</div><div><br></div><div>-A</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 7:38 PM Peter Rad <<a href="mailto:peter@4isps.com">peter@4isps.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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why not move that SIP trunk elsewhere? Like Intelepeer or Vonage or
RNG or Sangoma or anyone who would handle the E911?<br>
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<div>On 1/4/2022 7:07 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn
via VoiceOps wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">When I handed Comcast a list of phone numbers years
ago, they said there would be no problem porting them over or
using them.
<div>That was it.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Then after the service was installed, someone mentioned "a
few of the numbers will be RCF'd", but we wouldn't have a
problem using them.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Then 3 months into using the service (after our
cancellation period expired and we were locked-in), we
suddenly started having problems with the RCF'd numbers being
re-written.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>No less than 30 calls to Comcast over the years has
resulted in widely different responses including:<br>
* Ok, we just changed an option in the AdTran to allow you to
specify your own caller ID, everything should work now (it
doesn't)</div>
<div>* Give us a list of phone numbers and associated addresses
so we can update our e911 information (they respond with
"done!", not "we can't set e911 for phone number xxx-yyy-zzzz)</div>
<div>* I'm going to escalate this (followed by nothing happening
and the case gets magically closed)</div>
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<div>After talking with Comcast this morning, I had a rep send
me what they had listed for addresses associated with phone
numbers...and unsurprisingly found that they had reset
everything to the address of our SIP trunk service. None of
our offices have valid 911 contact info.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>They're allegedly in the middle of updating the list again,
but I'm not holding my breath.</div>
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<div>It's Comcast's job to provide phone service and 911 routing
for this client. They shouldn't be re-writing anything. They
weren't in the beginning, but I'm guessing it has to do with
STIR/SHAKEN. I'm vaguely familiar with it, but I'm not a
telco or a phone service provider. Just someone they hired to
clean up their FreePBX phone mess. ;)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-A</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 3:01 PM
Paul Timmins <<a href="mailto:paul@timmins.net" target="_blank">paul@timmins.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>I'm going to be the unpopular one here, and point out
that Comcast is not really responsible to route 911 calls
for you when you use numbers that they don't provide. For
the cost of an hour of an attorney's time, you could just
set up trunking to basically anyone else to handle those
offnet/off circuit numbers and the 911 routing for those
numbers.<br>
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<div>On 1/4/22 1:30 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via VoiceOps
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">One of my clients has a large SIP trunk
with Comcast based out of Washington State.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>They have all their offices across Oregon and
Washington hooked into a FreePBX phone server that is
attached to the Comcast SIP trunk.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>911 calls *constantly* get misrouted to the local
PSAP where the SIP trunk lives.</div>
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</div>
<div>I must have called Comcast 30 times over the last
few years to try and get this addressed, but Comcast
flat-out refuses to fix the issue.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The short answer is that Comcast refuses to fix
it. In some (but not all) cases, our phone numbers
are RCF'd numbers, so they don't actually exist on the
trunk...and Comcast forcibly re-writes them to our
'main' number...and then routes the 911 call
incorrectly. In other cases, we have provided Comcast
with the e911 information, they say it's updated, and
then we find out months later (when an office dials
911 during an emergency) that it's still not correct.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Not only does this affect 911 calls, but also
customers who get the re-written caller ID and have no
idea which office called them.</div>
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<div>The "easy" solution is to ditch Comcast and move to
a provider that doesn't play the RCF and
caller-ID-rewrite games. Unfortunately my client is
locked into their Comcast contract for another ~18
months. Early termination would incur a ~$35,000
bill.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Is there a list of PSAP numbers somewhere so I can
set up an internal redirect to the PSAP 10-digit
number? I know those 10-digit numbers are guarded
like Fort Knox, so I'm betting this option isn't very
realistic.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Maybe a separate service provider that can just
handle 911 calls without "owning" my client's phone
numbers?<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Any other thoughts on how I can route around
Comcast brain damage?<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-A</div>
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