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<div dir="ltr">Can you order SS7 links directly to the tandem (f-links?). Should just be a internal cross connect in the building. Then you build ISUP routes for the tandem point code over the direct links with backups over your current A- links </div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:15 PM, Mike Hammett <voiceops@ics-il.net> wrote:<br>
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Oh, sure. Pros and cons to everything.<br>
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<b>From: </b>"Mary Lou Carey" <marylou@backuptelecom.com><br>
<b>To: </b>"Mike Hammett" <voiceops@ics-il.net><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"voiceops" <voiceops@voiceops.org><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:59:14 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape<br>
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There are pros and cons to everything. It sounds like in your case you <br>
may just want to keep your ISUP trunks and SS7 links, but maybe look at <br>
another provider for SS7. Syniverse is also an option but I'm not sure <br>
if their service has gone downhill like TNS' apparently has.<br>
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MARY LOU CAREY<br>
BackUP Telecom Consulting<br>
Office: 615-791-9969<br>
Cell: 615-796-1111<br>
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On 2022-01-25 10:38 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:<br>
> Right, but as I said earlier, I'm already in the same building as the<br>
> tandem, so I'm just adding points of failure for moving an existing<br>
> operation somewhere else.<br>
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> -----<br>
> Mike Hammett<br>
> Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>
> http://www.ics-il.com<br>
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> Midwest Internet Exchange<br>
> http://www.midwest-ix.com<br>
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> From: "Mary Lou Carey" <marylou@backuptelecom.com><br>
> To: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops@ics-il.net><br>
> Cc: "Paul Timmins" <paul@timmins.net>, "voiceops"<br>
> <voiceops@voiceops.org><br>
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2022 10:42:22 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape<br>
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> When you use a PSTN connection provider you route your traffic to them<br>
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> via SIP and they handle all the SS7 so you can eliminate your direct<br>
> LIS<br>
> trunks with the LEC and your SS7 Links.<br>
> <br>
> MARY LOU CAREY<br>
> BackUP Telecom Consulting<br>
> Office: 615-791-9969<br>
> Cell: 615-796-1111<br>
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> On 2022-01-23 05:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:<br>
>> Well right, but wouldn't I still need all of the same stuff (perhaps<br>
> a<br>
>> few less trunks to specific switches, only now I have fewer minutes<br>
> to<br>
>> spread the costs over?<br>
>> <br>
>> -----<br>
>> Mike Hammett<br>
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>
>> http://www.ics-il.com<br>
>> <br>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange<br>
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com<br>
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>> From: "Paul Timmins" <paul@timmins.net><br>
>> To: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops@ics-il.net><br>
>> Cc: "voiceops" <voiceops@voiceops.org><br>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2022 12:01:01 AM<br>
>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape<br>
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>> Even without IPES you can switch your feature group D to voip<br>
> through<br>
>> these aggregators and get rid of basically everything that isn't the<br>
>> local LEC's legacy network.<br>
>> <br>
>>> On Jan 22, 2022, at 7:03 PM, Mike Hammett <voiceops@ics-il.net><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Sure, but then I just transfer the problem to someone else, until<br>
>>> the traditional PSTN goes away or modernizes. I am working on IPES<br>
>>> for expansion markets, though.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Also, for my home LATA, I'm needing to be in the same building as<br>
>>> the primary tandem, so it's kind of a selling point for large<br>
>>> customers in that area that I would have fewer opportunities for<br>
>>> failures. I don't have to go to Chicago and back to get to the<br>
>>> operator in the next row of racks over. Though, I suppose my SS7<br>
>>> diversity and availability is the weakness, not the actual call<br>
>>> path.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> -----<br>
>>> Mike Hammett<br>
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>
>>> http://www.ics-il.com [1]<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange<br>
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com [2]<br>
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>>> From: "Paul Timmins" <paul@timmins.net><br>
>>> To: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops@ics-il.net><br>
>>> Cc: "voiceops" <voiceops@voiceops.org><br>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2022 1:46:46 PM<br>
>>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape<br>
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>>> Reduce your reliance on it more and more. Switch to IP tandems<br>
>>> (Inteliquent/Peerless/etc) and ip interconnect. The people who make<br>
>>> and support SS7 equipment are in a dying market, the brain drain on<br>
>>> it is immense as people retire, and the longer you rely on it, the<br>
>>> worse it's gonna get.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> TNS is a big dog in the space. But that's not saying much anymore.<br>
>>> <br>
>>>> On Jan 22, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Mike Hammett <voiceops@ics-il.net><br>
>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> We currently get our SS7 via TNS. I (maybe incorrectly) understand<br>
>>>> them to be a big dog in that space.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> I've had two major problems with them in six months.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> What are my alternatives? Are they less pleasant?<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> -----<br>
>>>> Mike Hammett<br>
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com [1]<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange<br>
>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com [2]<br>
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