<div dir="ltr">My understanding is the campaign is quarterly. $2 / 3 for up to 49 numbers. <div><br></div><div>Total cost thus for me: </div><div>One-time cost:</div><div>- $4 brand registration </div><div>- $50 T-Mobile registration</div><div><br></div><div>Quarterly cost:</div><div>- $2 every 3 months for 49 numbers</div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">Aryn Nakaoka<br><a href="mailto:anakaoka@trinet-hi.com" target="_blank">anakaoka@trinet-hi.com</a><br>Direct: 808.356.2901<br></font></div><div><font size="2">518 Holokahana Lane</font></div><div>Honolulu, Hi<font size="2"> 96817<br></font></div><div><div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><font size="2">AlohaTone Mobile: <a href="https://youtu.be/PdUyuf0hTYY" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/PdUyuf0hTYY</a></font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">A Better Solution <a href="https://www.trinet-hi.com/abettersolution.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.trinet-hi.com/abettersolution.pdf <br></a></font><div><font size="2">Aloha Tone PBX <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96YWPY9wCeU" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96YWPY9wCeU</a><br></font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div></div><div><div><font size="2">CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. Any disclosure, distribution or copying of this email or any attachments by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to the message and deleting this email and any attachments from your system. Thank you for your cooperation.<br></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 1:17 PM Matthew Crocker <<a href="mailto:matthew@corp.crocker.com">matthew@corp.crocker.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Well, this is all new to me so I apologize for misleading or incorrect information. I’m going through the CSP process now and it has been pretty quick/easy. I’ve registered one brand ($4) and one campaign ($2/month).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m using Inteliquent as my interconnect, they charge fees per SMS/MMS. I don’t believe I will be receiving invoices from individual carriers (ala CABS)<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Peter Beckman <<a href="mailto:beckman@angryox.com" target="_blank">beckman@angryox.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:08 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Matthew Crocker <<a href="mailto:matthew@corp.crocker.com" target="_blank">matthew@corp.crocker.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers / TCR requiring NetNumber ID for SMS, even P2P<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Your statement is misleading, borderline wrong.<br>
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It's $200 just to sign up with TCR.<br>
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Then it is a variable fee based on how many DIDs you are attempting to<br>
register.<br>
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Low Volume: $2 per MONTH per DID (non-time-sensitive)<br>
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Undisclosed how much it costs if NOT Low Volume.<br>
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Then carriers can add on their own per-DID and per-campaign fees.<br>
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And this is ONLY for 10DLC A2P SMS -- BUSINESS or BULK SMS, not P2P,<br>
person-to-person SMS.<br>
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Look at the pricing Commio is putting out regarding T-Mobile:<br>
<a href="https://www.thinq.com/blog/t-mobile-10dlc-text-messaging-fee-changes/" target="_blank">https://www.thinq.com/blog/t-mobile-10dlc-text-messaging-fee-changes/</a><br>
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- $50 Campaign Service Activation Fee<br>
- $50 Campaign Migration Fee<br>
- $2,000 one-time NNID Registration<br>
- $10,000 pass-through fee if T-Mobile doesn't like your SMS<br>
- $1,000 pass-through fee if they think you're evading the rules<br>
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Bandwidth increasing per-SMS fees too:<br>
<a href="https://support.bandwidth.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500002422242-10DLC-Overview" target="_blank">https://support.bandwidth.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500002422242-10DLC-Overview</a><br>
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Can you imagine your cost basis as a small carrier, to increase your direct<br>
costs of a DID by 10x or more, just to allow your customer to send and<br>
receive SMS messages?<br>
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Please note:<br>
I am discussing P2P -- PERSON-TO-PERSON -- NOT A2P, BUSINESS-TO-PERSON<br>
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See the CTIA Best Practices for the difference between the content of the<br>
two.<br>
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Beckman<br>
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On Wed, 4 May 2022, Matthew Crocker wrote:<br>
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> <a href="http://www.campaignregistry.com%3chttp:/www.campaignregistry.com%3e" target="_blank">www.campaignregistry.com<http://www.campaignregistry.com></a> The process is quick,painless and a campaign costs a small one time fee ($4 I think)<br>
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> From: VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops-bounces@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops-bounces@voiceops.org</a>> on behalf of Peter Beckman <<a href="mailto:beckman@angryox.com" target="_blank">beckman@angryox.com</a>><br>
> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 5:09 PM<br>
> To: VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>><br>
> Subject: [VoiceOps] Carriers / TCR requiring NetNumber ID for SMS, even P2P<br>
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Crocker. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.<br>
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> I'm hearing from one of my carriers that in order to continue sending P2P<br>
> (NOT A2P) SMS from our DIDs, my $dayjob needs to purchase and maintain a<br>
> NetNumber ID to use as the SPID for SMS.<br>
><br>
> I'm also hearing that ALT-SPIDs are being discontinued.<br>
><br>
> Does anyone else know about this change, who is driving it, and why? Anyone<br>
> want to share costs involved in getting and maintaining an NNID for this<br>
> purpose?<br>
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> This feels more like pay-to-play than a solution to reduce unwanted SMS.<br>
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> Beckman<br>
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