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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">To my surprise, what I learned over the last few days is that most of the STI-CAs on iconectiv's list will offer you a standalone cert if asked. I also didn't
even think to ask Sansay, since as a SBC vendor I just assumed (which, we all know what assuming does...) that they jumped in as a CA as a benefit to their existing customer base and as a way to make their SBC product line more enticing as a "turn-key" solution
to potential new customers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I very much appreciate Carlos reaching out to me. To anybody else who might be in a similar position, I highly recommend talking to them. Their cert pricing
is extremely competitive, they are helpful and responsive, and their policies are also quite reasonable. Quite a 180 in most respects from some of the other vendors I reached out to.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">To just fill in a bit more context, my post here was kicked off when we -- whose voice side of the business is still de minimis -- received a quote from one
CA for $6,000/yr for a standalone cert. Highway robbery.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-- Nathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Carlos Perez [mailto:cperez@sansay.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 4, 2022 12:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mary Lou Carey<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nathan Anderson; Voiceops.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [VoiceOps] STI-CA average pricing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sansay provides the standalone CA solution as well if that’s what’s needed. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 11:06 AM Mary Lou Carey <<a href="mailto:marylou@backuptelecom.com">marylou@backuptelecom.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As far as I know, NEUSTAR is the only CA that will allow you to get a
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token without using their STIR/SHAKEN services.I know that there are <br>
multiple options for the STIR/SHAKEN products so make sure to ask about <br>
the various products / price ranges.<br>
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MARY LOU CAREY<br>
BackUP Telecom Consulting<br>
Office: 615-791-9969<br>
Cell: 615-796-1111<br>
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On 2022-06-03 10:22 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote:<br>
> Starting to collect quotes for SHAKEN cert signing from STI-CAs, and<br>
> got our first response back.<br>
> <br>
> I also got whiplash at the same time.<br>
> <br>
> Although I didn't have to sign an NDA or agree to any kind of<br>
> confidentiality in order to get this response, since nobody seemingly<br>
> wants to publish their pricing, I will (at least for the time being)<br>
> keep both the quote itself as well as the vendor name close to my<br>
> chest. But...dang.<br>
> <br>
> Though I'm hoping to be surprised, I'm guessing that there isn't a<br>
> wide difference in pricing between various STI-CAs. Can people here<br>
> confirm that I'm likely to mostly hear same-y figures from others? Or<br>
> if there are options that are significantly cheaper than others, who<br>
> do y'all recommend that I should be talking to?<br>
> <br>
> Note that I'm only talking about the CA component as a standalone<br>
> offering, though I'll observe that with very few exceptions, it also<br>
> doesn't seem like too many vendors are either willing to unbundle the<br>
> CA service from their overall "end-to-end cloud-based SHAKEN"<br>
> products, or if they are, they seemingly don't like to publicize it.<br>
> <br>
> To put my response to this pricing in context, we are a relatively<br>
> small regional broadband provider, and voice is a fraction of a<br>
> fraction of our business. I'd wager just about everyone else here has<br>
> a larger voice subscriber base than we do, and most of you probably<br>
> didn't blink when you saw the price-tag on what it would take to<br>
> become part of the STIR/SHAKEN ecosystem...just the cost of doing<br>
> business, right?<br>
> <br>
> We do have effective CLID anti-spoof already & have since the<br>
> beginning, and as a small provider, we also were *supposed* to have<br>
> another 12 months to get up to speed on all of this and start signing<br>
> calls...at least, that was the case until the FCC moved that timetable<br>
> up in what I can only describe as a Darth Vader-esque "altering [of]<br>
> the deal". We didn't get that memo in December but only about 3ish<br>
> months ago, and it's not like I don't have plenty of other things to<br>
> do, so I'm already coming into this project plenty pissed off...<br>
> <br>
> *sigh* Anyway, I can see that the gate-keepery-ness of this industry<br>
> is still alive and well. Though I can understand wanting to keep out<br>
> the riff-raff, you would think that all of the hurdles that one needs<br>
> to clear in order to get this far -- getting an OCN, on-boarding with<br>
> the STI-PA, etc. -- would be enough without also throwing yet another<br>
> huge mandatory & ongoing expense on top of the pile as well.<br>
> <br>
> Sorry. Didn't mean for this to turn into a rant, but...ugh.<br>
> <br>
> --<br>
> Nathan Anderson<br>
> First Step Internet, LLC<br>
> <a href="mailto:nathana@fsr.com" target="_blank">nathana@fsr.com</a><br>
> <br>
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