<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>I did that for the ones I knew of and yet still have a non-zero amount of numbers where I don't know where they live.<br><br><div><span name="x"></span><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br>Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>http://www.ics-il.com<br><br><br><br>Midwest Internet Exchange<br>http://www.midwest-ix.com<br><br><span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Ross Tajvar" <ross@tajvar.io><br><b>To: </b>"Mike Hammett" <voiceops@ics-il.net><br><b>Cc: </b>"VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, March 17, 2023 3:32:53 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [VoiceOps] Off-Net Numbers<br><br><div dir="auto">Surely you have commercial relationships with these entities, and can work backward from "who am I paying?"?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 17, 2023, 4:26 PM Mike Hammett via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">Historically, we used multiple entities to get us off-net numbers. Who, what, when, I don't know.<div><br></div><div>I have off-net numbers configured in my Metaswitch where I don't know who our upstream was, if we still have them, who they belonged to, etc. I can easily figure out what CLEC has them now, but we all know that there was probably someone between me and them, I just don't know who.</div><div><br></div><div>Is there any likelihood of being able to determine that? I assume the different CLECs that "own" these numbers are not going to tell me who their reseller was, for me to then follow up with.<br><br><div><span></span><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br>Intelligent Computing Solutions<br><a href="http://www.ics-il.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.ics-il.com</a><br><br><br><br>Midwest Internet Exchange<br><a href="http://www.midwest-ix.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.midwest-ix.com</a><br><br><span></span><br></div><br></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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