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I thought I stated the recording law accurately? <br><br>I think Henning was inquiring not so much about the legality of recording per se (which you have accurately addressed) as publicising the recording. As far as I know, US state and federal laws do not have a specific statute against this as long as the recording was legally made in the first place.<br><br>-- Alex<br><br><blockquote type="cite"> On Sep 20, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Carlos Alvarez via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> I’m surprised that you’re not aware of the laws on this (or lack of). There are only a small number of states with all party consent laws, most are single party. You just can’t record a third-party conversation where you are not involved, and they don’t know you’re recording.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> It leads to a complexity that I’m trying to help a customer with now. What if someone in AZ (single party) calls a person in CA (all party)? Further, what if the server is in AZ, but the caller is in an all party state, and they call a single party state? Etc.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> On Sep 20, 2023 at 2:16:02 AM, Alex Balashov via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">> Under US law, if the recording was obtained lawfully (that is, if consent was obtained from both parties, or if the US state in question does it require consent from both parties, only one party), there is no specific prohibition against publicising it that I'm aware of.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">> —<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">> Sent from mobile, apologies for brevity and errors.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> On Sep 20, 2023, at 3:52 AM, Henning Westerholt via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Hello,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> kind of interesting that you post a recording of incoming call publicly on this list. For the record, I did not listen to it.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Under German law this would be probably a criminal offence with a penalty of 2 up to 5 years prison, depending on your position and how serious the infringement is.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> About the US laws you know of course better, I was just surprised.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Cheers,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Henning<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> -- <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Henning Westerholt – <a href="https://skalatan.de/blog/">https://skalatan.de/blog/</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Kamailio services – <a href="https://gilawa.com">https://gilawa.com</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> From: VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops-bounces@voiceops.org">voiceops-bounces@voiceops.org</a>> On Behalf Of Christopher Aloi via VoiceOps<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Sent: Dienstag, 19. September 2023 19:32<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> To: Carlos Alvarez <<a href="mailto:caalvarez@gmail.com">caalvarez@gmail.com</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Cc: VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Request to block number?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Here is another link if that one didn't work - <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <a href="https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0dff3yxAUUyWu_Nd9ddlMGY8w#2023%5FSeptember%5F19%5F095014%5FEST-EDT%5FInbound%5F4845791377%5F7169616161%5F714">https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0dff3yxAUUyWu_Nd9ddlMGY8w#2023%5FSeptember%5F19%5F095014%5FEST-EDT%5FInbound%5F4845791377%5F7169616161%5F714</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 1:19 PM Christopher Aloi <<a href="mailto:ctaloi@gmail.com">ctaloi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> I appreciate the concern, and the thought crossed our minds. He called twice and once ended up in sales and once in support and he didn't seem to be interested in who he spoke with. <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Here is a recording of the call..<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <a href="https://vaspian-my.sharepoint.com/personal/caloi_vaspian_com/_layouts/15/stream.aspx?id=%2Fpersonal%2Fcaloi%5Fvaspian%5Fcom%2FDocuments%2F2023%5FSeptember%5F19%5F095014%5FEST%2DEDT%5FInbound%5F4845791377%5F7169616161%5F714%2Emp3&ga=1">https://vaspian-my.sharepoint.com/personal/caloi_vaspian_com/_layouts/15/stream.aspx?id=%2Fpersonal%2Fcaloi%5Fvaspian%5Fcom%2FDocuments%2F2023%5FSeptember%5F19%5F095014%5FEST%2DEDT%5FInbound%5F4845791377%5F7169616161%5F714%2Emp3&ga=1</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 1:12 PM Carlos Alvarez via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Is it possible that he’s fixated on a specific employee? Not to be alarmist, but it’s worth asking around. I once had a situation where I noticed some crazy calling activity in a log, just by coincidence, and found that an employee was being stalked/harassed.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> On Sep 19, 2023 at 10:08:33 AM, Christopher Aloi via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Ha! He did say "he has no self control". Maybe just someone with some mental challenges.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 1:05 PM Alex Balashov via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Does your company provide anything of interests to addicts, or anyone with a compulsive habit they are trying to kick? (e.g. compulsive shopping for new VoIP handsets)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > On Sep 19, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Christopher Aloi via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > Hey All,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > I have a new one.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > We (hosted phone provider) have received three calls today from an individual asking us to block him from calling our company. I can't figure out his end game. He's tried multiple times and didn't explain why when questioned. He said multiple times he wanted his number to be blocked from calling our company.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > Thoughts?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > Could it be a social engineering attempt? What for?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > Chris<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > _______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > VoiceOps mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > <a href="mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org">VoiceOps@voiceops.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> > <a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> -- <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Alex Balashov<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Principal Consultant<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Evariste Systems LLC<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Web: <a href="https://evaristesys.com">https://evaristesys.com</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> Tel: +1-706-510-6800<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> _______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> VoiceOps mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <a href="mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org">VoiceOps@voiceops.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> _______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> VoiceOps mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <a href="mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org">VoiceOps@voiceops.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> _______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> VoiceOps mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <a href="mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org">VoiceOps@voiceops.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> _______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> VoiceOps mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <a href="mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org">VoiceOps@voiceops.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">>> <a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">> _______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">> VoiceOps mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">> <a href="mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org">VoiceOps@voiceops.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">> <a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> _______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> VoiceOps mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <a href="mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org">VoiceOps@voiceops.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops</a><br></blockquote><br>-- <br>Alex Balashov<br>Principal Consultant<br>Evariste Systems LLC<br>Web: <a href="https://evaristesys.com">https://evaristesys.com</a><br>Tel: +1-706-510-6800<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>VoiceOps mailing list<br><a href="mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org">VoiceOps@voiceops.org</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops</a><br>
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