<div dir="auto">We need BGP for VoIP! Wait no that's worse... /s<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Jokes aside, my understanding of the way people do VoIP routing for private peer interconnection is by looking up the OCN at call time and routing on that. That way you don't have to worry about verifying individual numbers, or keeping routing/ownership information up to date, or a myriad of other things.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I can think of a few ways that could be adapted into a platform more like an Internet exchange, but as others have said, it just doesn't seem worth it.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 24, 2023, 5:31 PM Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I think schemes like DUNDI (and some of the others mentioned here) suffer from a trust issue – what’s to prevent operator X from poisoning the protocol with bogus “stolen” numbers?</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </p></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 5:25 PM Jared Smith via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 8:49 AM Mike Hammett via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt">This was in another thread, but I broke it out into it's own conversation. Someone had asked:</span></font><br><br>---<br><div>I am joining this thread late, but, would anyone out there be interested in exchanging traffic with other carriers directly over SIP?</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Just another point of VoIP history trivia at this point... but in addition to things like ENUM and ITAD, Mark Spencer of Asterisk fame also invented Dundi, which was an encrypted peer-to-peer protocol for route advertisement and discovery. As far as I know, very few people besides me ever put it in production, but it worked really well at the time. (Of course, it's been about 17 or 18 years now since I used it in production.) </div><div><br></div><div>-Jared</div></div></div>
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