<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>I haven't been able to attribute it to malice or ignorance yet, just that it happens.<br><br><div><span name="x"></span><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br>Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>http://www.ics-il.com<br><br><br><br>Midwest Internet Exchange<br>http://www.midwest-ix.com<br><br><span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Alex Balashov via VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org><br><b>To: </b>"VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, March 9, 2024 7:57:33 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [VoiceOps] One Way Audio - Frontier Comm (Los Angeles area)<br><br>No, it's true, consider me appropriately humbled. I underappreciated the nuance of this issue. I thought we were talking about something closer to the physicality of networks, not packet inspection/filtering/etc.<br><br>-- Alex<br><br>> On 9 Mar 2024, at 08:11, James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> wrote:<br>> <br>>>>>>> "AB" == Alex Balashov writes:<br>> <br>>>> I don't trust last mile networks to reliably deliver SIP calls. I usually end up putting them into VPNs, TLS, etc.<br>> <br>> AB> VPNs and TLS make last-mile networks more reliable? :-) <br>> <br>> on the vpn side, wireguard (which runs over udp) certainly does.<br>> <br>> I imagine ipsec sometimes can, too. but wg is easier.<br>> <br>> -JimC<br>> -- <br>> James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com><br>> OpenPGP: https://jhcloos.com/0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6.asc<br><br>-- <br>Alex Balashov<br>Principal Consultant<br>Evariste Systems LLC<br>Web: https://evaristesys.com<br>Tel: +1-706-510-6800<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>VoiceOps mailing list<br>VoiceOps@voiceops.org<br>https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops<br></div><br></div></body></html>