<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>Okay, so there would be a formal transaction specifically for the block of numbers, and never anything "casual"?<br><br><div><span name="x"></span><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br>Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>http://www.ics-il.com<br><br><br><br>Midwest Internet Exchange<br>http://www.midwest-ix.com<br><br><span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Mary Lou Carey" <marylou@backuptelecom.com><br><b>To: </b>"Mike Hammett" <voiceops@ics-il.net><br><b>Cc: </b>"voiceops" <voiceops@voiceops.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, March 27, 2024 10:18:50 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [VoiceOps] NRUF 502<br><br>It's not an intermediate number unless you LEASE the numbers to the <br>other carrier. Letting them take the TN that a former customer had is <br>the same as porting. You only need to file U1 and leave any numbers <br>ported or donated to another carrier due to a customer move in the <br>assigned column.<br><br>MARY LOU CAREY<br>BackUP Telecom Consulting<br>Office: 615-791-9969<br>Cell: 615-796-1111<br><br>On 2024-03-24 07:25 PM, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps wrote:<br>> https://www.nationalnanpa.com/pdf/NRUF/GeoJobAid.pdf<br>> <br>> “Resold” services should also be treated like ported numbers,<br>> meaning the carrier transferring the service to another carrier or<br>> non-carrier entity should classify the numbers as “Assigned” and<br>> the numbers should not be counted by the receiving carrier. These<br>> numbers should not be considered intermediate numbers because the<br>> intermediate classification only applies to blocks of numbers obtained<br>> from or given to another carrier or non-carrier entity for future<br>> assignment. Numbers transferred with resold services already have<br>> established customer assignments and therefore cannot be used for<br>> future assignment.<br>> <br>> So it seems like if I transfer a block to someone else (anyone but an<br>> end-user) for them to maintain in inventory or we receive a block of<br>> number from someone else, then that's an intermediate number. If it's<br>> on a ones-and-twos basis, fulfilled per end-user request, then it's an<br>> assigned number. That seems difficult to maintain an accurate count<br>> of. If I request numbers from VoIP.MS, Bandwidth, Peerless, etc., it's<br>> an assigned number.<br>> <br>> -----<br>> Mike Hammett<br>> Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>> http://www.ics-il.com<br>> <br>> Midwest Internet Exchange<br>> http://www.midwest-ix.com<br>> <br>> -------------------------<br>> <br>> From: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops@ics-il.net><br>> To: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops@ics-il.net><br>> Cc: "voiceops" <voiceops@voiceops.org><br>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2024 6:39:12 PM<br>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] NRUF 502<br>> <br>> What are some examples of when someone would report intermediate<br>> numbers? The documentation gives a technical answer, but not a<br>> real-world example.<br>> <br>> -----<br>> Mike Hammett<br>> Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>> http://www.ics-il.com<br>> <br>> Midwest Internet Exchange<br>> http://www.midwest-ix.com<br>> <br>> -------------------------<br>> <br>> From: "Mike Hammett via VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org><br>> To: "voiceops" <voiceops@voiceops.org><br>> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 6:11:06 PM<br>> Subject: [VoiceOps] NRUF 502<br>> <br>> I'm just learning about NRUF 502.<br>> As I read the documentation (and some Googling):<br>> Every phone number in the blocks I have are either Assigned,<br>> Intermediate, Reserved, Aging, or Administrative.<br>> Ported out numbers count as assigned.<br>> Returned ported numbers are available.<br>> I do this for blocks that I got from NANPA.<br>> I do not do it for ported numbers.<br>> <br>> I'm supposed to be able to tell in Neustar SOA what numbers have<br>> disconnected. I've reached out to them to figure out how to do that. I<br>> couldn't find documentation that was direct enough for me to know it<br>> was the right thing.<br>> <br>> -----<br>> Mike Hammett<br>> Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>> http://www.ics-il.com<br>> <br>> Midwest Internet Exchange<br>> http://www.midwest-ix.com<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> VoiceOps mailing list<br>> VoiceOps@voiceops.org<br>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> VoiceOps mailing list<br>> VoiceOps@voiceops.org<br>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops<br></div><br></div></body></html>