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    Same. Healthcare facilities won't let go.  But client types form my
    observation.  Most of our clients have at least one physical fax
    device, with some having more than 5 in one office, generally for
    business units.  And many of those will also have an efax solution
    available as well.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/19/2024 12:42 PM, Shawn L via
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      <div dir="ltr">More than we'd like to.  Medical institutions and
        law firms seem to be the two biggest ones.  We have one hospital
        that has multiple PRIs just devoted to faxing -- thankfully that
        is TDM, so in general it just works.  Otherwise, for those that
        use SIP there doesn't seem to ever be a "just do X, and it'll
        work".  There's always some trial and error with the individual
        site, the MTA / ATA model, the fax machines involved, etc.  
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        <div>The worst one I have seen was during the height of COVID. 
          A new testing lab was opened and they could not be convinced
          that sending 1500 page faxes was fraught with potential
          problems.  Regardless if there was an ATA involved or not.  In
          the end, we declined to provide them service because we knew
          nothing good would come of it.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at
          12:14 PM Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps <<a
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          <div dir="ltr">What are everyone's thoughts on trying to do
            fax this way, versus, an E-Fax solution that supports
            receiving as well as sending ?
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            <div>How many legit physical fax machines are you all
              supporting out there?</div>
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            <div>Jawaid</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at
              12:13 PM Mark Wiater via VoiceOps <<a
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              <div> I can echo, that the ATA matters. But so does the
                configuration of the faxing device (14400 Baud and ECM
                on), the switches that the calls go through, the
                configuation of the network equipment and the quality of
                the internet connection, even the cable type connecting
                the ATA and the fax device sometimes. <br>
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                I have excellent faxing history with Cisco ATA-191's
                using G.711 (but not T.38 with the softswitch I use
                predominantly) and a client network with well configured
                QOS enabled firewalls.  <br>
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                It's not logical to me, but I've even seen instances
                where using a 2 conductor cable from fax to ata improved
                communication over a 4 conductor cable.<br>
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                Nathan and Ross covered other great points as well.<br>
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                Mark<br>
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                <div>On 4/18/2024 10:22 PM, KARIM MEKKAOUI via VoiceOps
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Hi VOIPOPS Community</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Do you know about any fax over
                      internet solution that works? We tried multiple
                      ATA and multiple ATA configurations, sometime it
                      works sometimes not.</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Also, do you know about any
                      eFax solution provider that works good.</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks in advance for your
                      help.</p>
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                        style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">KARIM</span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">MEKTEL INC. </span></p>
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