<div dir="ltr">"Pretty much the same, but everything is over SDWAN get to the meta. So if the CO loses Internet or experiences Internet packet loss, all voice services will be impacted.<div><br></div><div>Very dystopian, but I think that’s the future for rural ILECs"<br></div><div><br></div><div>OK, so one thing I'm hearing here, is concern for "survivability" where you can at least still maintain local calling even if WAN goes down. (The internet never goes down does it? ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>Of course 911 availability requirements are a key element of this, but, "the internet is down" is also bad news for any business in your town.</div><div><br></div><div>Do rural operators WANT to keep running expensive local switches? Or, would cloud be more attractive if there was survivability? i.e., limited local hosting of services?</div><div><br></div><div>Aside from internet outage taking out all phones, there is also cloud outages. Seems like a multi-cloud operation would be preferable to one that relies on a single cloud?</div><div><br></div><div>Jawaid</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 4:10 PM Ethan Clay via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div><div>I think the new model is going to be:</div><div>TDM Trunk media gateway to IP</div><div>FXS to IP</div><div>ONT to IP</div><div>SDWAN to Azure where logic is done</div><div>Monthly subscription for switching</div><div><br></div><div>Pretty much the same, but everything is over SDWAN get to the meta. So if the CO loses Internet or experiences Internet packet loss, all voice services will be impacted.</div><div><br></div><div>Very dystopian, but I think that’s the future for rural ILECs</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Ethan Clay</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div> <br></div></div> <br> </div><div style="border-top:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);height:0px;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;line-height:0px"></div> <br> <div>---- On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 15:50:07 -0400 <a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a><<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>> wrote ----</div><div><br></div><blockquote style="border-left:0px;padding-left:0px;margin-left:0px"> <div dir="auto"><div>I don't think it's getting run over by AI. Peter R called it; it's about welding everyone to Azure and Teams.</div><br id="m_-835527685298293675x_728458925lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">—<div>Sent from mobile, apologies for brevity and errors.</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote>On Aug 13, 2024, at 3:46 PM, Jeff Brower via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote><div dir="ltr">
<p>"The telecommunications industry remains a priority industry for Microsoft"<br>
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that is questionable. Like other areas getting run over by AI, priorities are shifting. Maybe they expect that if their AI gets smart enough, it can solve telecom use cases anyway :-)<br>
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Quoting Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>>:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"Azure for Operators" is what Microsoft was calling the Metaswitch products.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This went out a couple months ago:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are reaching out to customers of our Azure for Operators portfolio, which includes products we acquired from Affirmed Networks and <span>Metaswitch</span> Networks, to explain recent updates to our portfolio.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u>In 2020, we announced our Azure for Operators initiative. As part of this effort, we acquired Affirmed Networks, <span>Metaswitch</span> Networks, and IP from AT&T to acquire “Telco DNA” that would enhance our operational / technical engineering skills for building a carrier grade platform. As these acquisitions came together with Azure, we created Azure Operator Nexus – a carrier grade, hybrid cloud platform. We are moving Azure Operator Nexus into our broader Azure Edge and Platform portfolio and continue to service operators.</u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u>Based on customer demand, the Azure for Operators initiative also focused on automation and analytics capabilities as early products. Given the acceleration of <span>Microsoft</span>’s AI capabilities overall, we are now aligning these early efforts with <span>Microsoft</span>’s broader portfolio.</u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u>As we advance our platform and AI capabilities, we are shifting our focus from the Network Function layer to partnerships with industry leaders of these capabilities. We will fulfill all our contractual obligations to existing customers and we will be consistent with published end-of-life policies. We will not expand our customer base for <span>Microsoft</span>’s Network Functions, including the former <span>Metaswitch</span> and Affirmed Networks software products.</u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><span style="color:black">The telecommunications industry </span>remains a priority industry for <span>Microsoft</span>. We will continue to empower telecommunications organizations to achieve more through a trusted and secure platform built to elevate customer experiences, streamline enterprise operations and business support systems, accelerate network transformation, reinvent product innovation and monetization, and build a secure data-driven business.</u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u>We appreciate the importance our products provide in supporting your network. We also appreciate the long-term planning that network development requires, so we will communicate our roadmap plans at the earliest opportunity. It is important to note that these changes do not require immediate action from you today, nor do they change any agreement that you have in place with <span>Microsoft</span>. We will continue to meet all customer contractual commitments.</u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u>If you have any questions, please contact: AFO Sales Questions <a href="mailto:afosalesqst@microsoft.com" target="_blank">afosalesqst@<span>microsoft</span>.com</a>.</u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u>Thank you.</u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u><b><u> </u></b></u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u><b>FAQ</b></u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u><b>Q: Is there any action I need to take today? When will you have more details to share about retirement dates (Azure services) or End of Life dates (<span>Metaswitch</span> Networks & Affirmed Networks products)?</b></u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u>A: We will continue to meet all customer contractual commitments and be consistent with published end-of-life policies. We also appreciate the long-term planning that network development requires, so we will communicate our roadmap plans at the earliest opportunity.</u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u><b><u> </u></b></u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u><b>Q: Will you still support our cloud and AI transformation?</b></u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u>A: Yes, <span>Microsoft</span> is refining the offers we provide to operators to reflect the strong demand for cloud and AI based solutions.</u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u><u> </u></u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u><b>Q: If you are announcing an End of Sale for the Affirmed Network and <span>Metaswitch</span> Network products for new customers and net new deployments, what does this mean for my existing service?</b></u></u></u></p>
<ul style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-top:0in">
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u>We will meet all existing customer contractual obligations.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u>We will continue to maintain the software to provide security patches and bug fixes. We highly recommend that customers follow standard security practices and upgrade to the latest releases.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u>We will provide support consistent with existing contracts.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u>We will continue to offer project level support / maintenance services on a case-by-case basis (as we do today).</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u>We will support the expansion of volumes of current deployments.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u>We will not expand the customer base / add new customers.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u>We will not expand to entirely new deployments for existing customers (e.g., launching for a new OpCo or OpCo not currently deployed) where the new deployment is not already contractually committed.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u>We will not expand or offer new feature sets beyond those that have already been committed.</u></u></u></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u><u> </u></u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u><b>Q: What Are you announcing for the Azure for Operators products?</b></u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u>A: Here is a summary of these changes:</u></u></u></p>
<ul style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-top:0in">
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u>We promoted Azure Operator Nexus to Azure’s Edge and Platform portfolio and will continue to sell it.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u>We will continue to support Azure Programmable Connectivity.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u>We will support existing customers of Azure Operator Insights / AIOps Copilot, but we will not accept new customers. <span>Microsoft</span> Fabric will address this functionality.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u>We will no longer add new customers for: Azure Communication Gateway (ACG), Azure Operator Insights (AOI), Azure Private 5G Core (AP5GC), Affirmed Mobile Content Cloud (MCC), Affirmed UnityCloud (UC), <span>Metaswitch</span> Rhino TAS, and <span>Metaswitch</span> Perimeta SBC. If you have a customer who is in the process of onboarding, please contact the appropriate In-flight Projects contact: <a href="mailto:sallywathen@microsoft.com" target="_blank">sallywathen@<span>microsoft</span>.com</a> (APAC and EMEA) or <a href="mailto:seanjames@microsoft.com" target="_blank">seanjames@<span>microsoft</span>.com</a> (Americas).</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u>We will not accept more preview candidates for: Azure Operator Call Protection (AOCP) and Azure Operator 5G Core (AO5GC), and we will not move these services to General Availability.</u></u></u></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u><b>Q: What is next after you stop selling a product, and how will you manage these products?</b></u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u>A: We will continue to support these products in accordance with our existing customer commitments. We will eventually retire these services in accordance with our lifecycle policies. In advance of retirement, we will provide notification as well as details on transition recommendations. <span>We are committed to supporting you through this transition.</span></u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u><u> </u></u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u>Here are the current plans for each product, but plans may evolve as we work with customers:</u></u></u></p>
<ul style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-top:0in">
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u><b>Azure Communication Gateway (ACG) </b>– We will publish a transition roadmap to recommend options to migrate off these services to partner solutions when the service is retired.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u><b>Azure Operator Insights (AOI) </b>– We will work with customers to align this service to <span>Microsoft</span> Fabric before the service is retired.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u><b>Azure Operator 5G Core (AO5GC) </b> – We will not move this product from Public Preview to GA</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u><b>Azure Private 5G Core (AP5GC)</b> – We will provide options to adopt services using partner solutions before the service is retired.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u><b>Azure Operator Call Protection (AOCP)</b> – We will not move this product from Private Preview to GA. Operators may still use existing <span>Microsoft</span> tooling and partner solutions to create a similar solution.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u><b>Affirmed Mobile Content Cloud (MCC)</b> – We will meet obligations as defined above until product End of Life.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u><b>Affirmed UnityCloud (UC)</b> – We will meet obligations as defined above and move to product End of Life.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u><b><span>Metaswitch</span> Rhino TAS</b> – We will meet obligations as defined above until product End of Life.</u></u></u></li>
<li style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u><u><u><b><span>Metaswitch</span> Perimeta SBC</b> – We will meet obligations as defined above until product End of Life.</u></u></u></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u><u> </u></u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u><b>Q: Is <span>Microsoft</span> exiting the telecommunications industry?</b></u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u>A: No. <span>Microsoft</span> remains fully committed to supporting the telecommunications industry by empowering them to achieve more with the power of Cloud and AI. The changes to the Azure for Operator portfolio reflect customer demand and enable us to focus on the technologies that drive the most value for our customers and partners.</u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u><b><u> </u></b></u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u><u><b>Q: If these changes impacted my contacts at <span>Microsoft</span>, who can I contact?</b></u></u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline"><u><u><u><span style="font-size:11pt">A: W<span>e apologize for any inconvenience personnel changes have caused you. Please reach out to your assigned <span>Microsoft</span> Account Executive. For issues requiring escalation, you may contact the following:</span><span> </span></span></u></u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline"><u><u><u><span><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></u></u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;margin-bottom:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><u><u><u><span><span style="font-size:11pt">Support Issues: </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><a href="mailto:mhenderson@microsoft.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt">mhenderson@<span>microsoft</span>.com</span></a><span><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></u></u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;margin-bottom:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><u><u><u><span><span style="font-size:11pt">In-flight Projects (APAC and EMEA) </span></span><a href="mailto:sallywathen@microsoft.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt">sallywathen@<span>microsoft</span>.com</span></a></u></u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;margin-bottom:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><u><u><u><span><span style="font-size:11pt">In-flight Projects (Americas): </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><a href="mailto:seanjames@microsoft.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt">seanjames@<span>microsoft</span>.com</span></a></u></u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;margin-bottom:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><u><u><u><span><span style="font-size:11pt">Purchase Orders: <span style="color:blue"> </span></span></span><a href="mailto:jason.ryberg@microsoft.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt">jason.ryberg@<span>microsoft</span>.com</span></a><span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:blue"> </span></span></u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><u><u><u><span>Executive Escalation: </span><a href="mailto:shawn.hakl@microsoft.com" target="_blank">shawn.hakl@<span>microsoft</span>.com</a></u></u></u></p>
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<div dir="ltr"><u><u><u>On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 8:41 AM Mike Hammett <<a href="mailto:voiceops@ics-il.net" target="_blank">voiceops@ics-il.net</a>> wrote:</u></u></u></div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><u><u><u>"Given the MetaSwitch products are no longer sold, and Microsoft is EOLing them, and not taking new support contracts..."</u></u></u>
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<div><u><u><u>That's news to me.</u></u></u><br>
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<b>To:</b> "voiceops" <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:23:05 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [VoiceOps] Acquire MetaSwitch</u></u></u><br>
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<div><u><u><u>We are in the market to acquire / take over a MetaSwitch CFS. In particular, we're looking for the virtual edition that runs purely in VMWare.</u></u></u></div>
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<div><u><u><u>The components we'd need are:</u></u></u></div>
<div><u><u><u> CFS</u></u></u></div>
<div><u><u><u> MRS (Media Resource Server)</u></u></u></div>
<div><u><u><u> Perimeta</u></u></u></div>
<div><u><u><u> SAS (Service Assurance Server)</u></u></u></div>
<div><u><u><u> MetaView Server</u></u></u></div>
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<div><u><u><u>These are fairly common components.</u></u></u></div>
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<div><u><u><u>Given the MetaSwitch products are no longer sold, and Microsoft is EOLing them, and not taking new support contracts, we're not talking about a big cash up front kind of deal, but, instead a revenue share kind of arrangement.</u></u></u></div>
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<div><u><u><u>Anyone that has one and is interested, contact me directly off-list.</u></u></u></div>
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<div><u><u><u>Cheers,</u></u></u></div>
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