<div dir="ltr">"The largest Metaswitch white-label provider just went to CXDO, so the writing on the wall that I have been seeing for 2 years, others are now seeing."<br><div><br></div><div>Are you talking about Reinvent?</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 2:29 PM Peter Rad via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p>That's not happening. The Metaswitch employees I know that are
left are happy taking marching orders from M$.</p>
<p>The problem the softswitch industry had was that the pie was
stable. It wasn't growing, so you weren't selling new logos. You
were just supporting customers - and that isn't a growth business
nor is it a profitable business. <br>
</p>
<p>The problem is that of the 900 operators using Metaswitch in the
US, most are mom and pop and rural. That doesn't convert to "Going
Azure."</p>
<p>These mom-and-pop's will have to make due with what they have for
the next 5 years - and use that 5 years as a runway for an exit
strategy.<br>
</p>
<p>The largest Metaswitch white-label provider just went to CXDO, so
the writing on the wall that I have been seeing for 2 years,
others are now seeing.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Peter @ RAD-INFO<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div>On 8/13/2024 3:54 PM, Jeff Brower via
VoiceOps wrote:<br>
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<p>Not sure about Affirmed, but I know some of the original
MetaSwitch guys, and a few still at Microsoft. They were, and I
suspect still are, extremely dedicated and capable. My guess is
they will find a way to spin out / buy out MetaSwitch in some
form it will continue.<br>
<br>
-Jeff<br>
<br>
Quoting Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>>:</p>
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<div>I have a use case. The use case is, be in a position to
take customers tomorrow on a 5/9's platform.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>One alternative is Ribbon: that solution is out of my
price range, and, likely out of price range of every rural
ILEC I know.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>A second is Squire, but, I'm not willing to risk it w/o
getting my hands on a long-term trial which was requested
but not offered.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>The final alternative is to throw into developing one,
likely in two phases. The orchestration and front end of the
Elephant Talk project is complete, now just need to settle
on a production backend.</div>
<div> </div>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at
3:33 PM Alex Balashov via VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<p>I suppose this all raises the question of why on earth
you'd want to acquire a Metaswitch, but you've clearly got
an angle.<br>
<br>
-- Alex<br>
<br>
> On Aug 13, 2024, at 3:20 PM, Jawaid Bazyar via
VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> "Microsoft's end game is for every operator to have a
big pipe to Azure to access Metaswitch, vSBC, Teams and
other components."<br>
><br>
> My question is, can you actually run a MetaSwitch CFS
in Azure? Because to my knowledge, you cannot.<br>
><br>
> I would be very interested if I was wrong about this.<br>
><br>
> Jawaid<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 12:56 PM Peter Rad via
VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Besides getting rid of their Max UC softphone (to
make MS Teams THEE softphone), they did EOL a lot of the
Meta product.<br>
><br>
> We - RAD-INFO, ECG and Andrew Ward - did a webinar
about it in May. You can watch the recording here: <a href="https://info.ecg.co/webinar-recording-broadworks-metaswitch-netsapiens-ribbon" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://info.ecg.co/webinar-recording-broadworks-metaswitch-netsapiens-ribbon</a><br>
><br>
> Microsoft's end game is for every operator to have a
big pipe to Azure to access Metaswitch, vSBC, Teams and
other components.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Let me know if there is anything I can do for you.
Thank you.<br>
> <br>
> Regards,<br>
> <br>
> Peter Radizeski<br>
> RAD-INFO INC<br>
> Telecom Consultant<br>
> Bandwidth * Voice * Cloud * Data Center * Internet *
CyberSecurity<br>
> (813) 963-5884<br>
> <br>
> <br>
><br>
> On 8/13/2024 8:41 AM, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps
wrote:<br>
>> "Given the MetaSwitch products are no longer
sold, and Microsoft is EOLing them, and not taking new
support contracts..."<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> That's news to me.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -----<br>
>> Mike Hammett<br>
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>
>> <a href="http://www.ics-il.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.ics-il.com</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange<br>
>> <a href="http://www.midwest-ix.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.midwest-ix.com</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> From: "Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps" <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>><br>
>> To: "voiceops" <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>><br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:23:05 AM<br>
>> Subject: [VoiceOps] Acquire MetaSwitch<br>
>><br>
>> Hello,<br>
>><br>
>> We are in the market to acquire / take over a
MetaSwitch CFS. In particular, we're looking for the
virtual edition that runs purely in VMWare.<br>
>><br>
>> The components we'd need are:<br>
>> CFS<br>
>> MRS (Media Resource Server)<br>
>> Perimeta<br>
>> SAS (Service Assurance Server)<br>
>> MetaView Server<br>
>><br>
>> These are fairly common components.<br>
>><br>
>> Given the MetaSwitch products are no longer sold,
and Microsoft is EOLing them, and not taking new support
contracts, we're not talking about a big cash up front
kind of deal, but, instead a revenue share kind of
arrangement.<br>
>><br>
>> Anyone that has one and is interested, contact me
directly off-list.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>><br>
>> Jawaid<br>
>><br>
>><br>
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